5 year plan

"Conan The Librarian" wrote

I'd also recommend the streams in western North Carolina and east
Tennessee, but Jeff would probably have to kill me if I did.


Chuck Vance (and maybe Wayne Knight and wayno, too)

i'd be careful when opening christmas mail this year, vance...

yfitons
wayno

"Conan The Librarian" wrote


I'd recommend the Crowsnest Pass area in Canada near the Alberta/BC
border. The scenery is spectacular, and you have access to the Crow and
excellent rainbow and brown trout fishing. Plus there are several less
well-known cutthroat streams within about an hour's drive. (The Castle
and the Livingstone and their tribs are all worthy of checking out. Plus,
closer to Calgary is the Highwood.)



I went up to that area last summer but never fished, it was a hubby and wife
vacation.

Last June when we were there everything was pretty damn blown out, even the
Bow down below the dams at Carseland

I met a fellow troutbum this year, with a similar story to mine ... forced
early retirement, physical limitations on where he can fish

He goes to the Crowsnest each year, and I plan to contact him and try to
meet there.


ON the soft hackle thread, this guy, Dave, fishes soft hackles almost
exclusively, down on the swing, and catches a lot of fish and some big fish
..... he got me trying it on water that doesn't suggest it, i.e. slow Silver
Creek flows and it does work G

"Larry L" wrote in message
...
I turned 60 a couple weeks ago, and I've been retired 5 years. Those
two numbers seem to invite a little introspection and suggest it's time for
a new 5 year plan.

Please list the places you like to fly fish for trout. No, I don't want
GPS or real secret spots. But, as I think about how to spend the next 5
summers "trout bumming" I don't want to miss a great place simply because
I havent' heard about it.


Larry,
if you've never been stranded on an Alaskan River for two weeks, fishing
for a variety of different species, you'll be in for quite a surprise. If
you
like crowds, it wouldn't be the place to even consider, because you'll be
out of touch with people. Some anglers actually have a hard time being
alone. From reading your post, you sound like an instinctive fisherman,
you'll be your own guide.

The first time I hooked up on a King Salmon on a river, I was scared to
death, thought It was going to rip my arms off. I couldn't believe how fast
it took me to the backing (seconds). My first King weighed in at 34 lbs.,
the biggest was 41 lbs. there are some that are 50+ lbs. you'll see them if
you go.

I'm also used to the Northern California brook and rainbows, and was blown
away by the large Alaskan Leopard Rainbows...unbelievable fighters.
It's truly a thrill to get one on a dry fly.

We also caught Char, Dolly Varden, Silver Salmon, and Grayling. The first
year I was there I caught Lake Trout. Other species of salmon in the river
are the Sockeye's and Humpies, but didn't get any of those.

It's quite an experience, you may want to try it at least once in your
life if you haven't already. I have the contacts if you're interested.
The cost is also reasonable compared to other outfitters.
I also have the topo maps and GPS, and flies to use if needed.
-tom

On 12-Dec-2007, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

ease list the places you like to fly fish for trout. No, I don't want
GPS or real secret spots. But, as I think about how to spend the next
5
summers "trout bumming" I don't want to miss a great place simply
because
I havent' heard about it.


Larry,
if you've never been stranded on an Alaskan River for two weeks, fishing
for a variety of different species, you'll be in for quite a surprise. If
you
like crowds, it wouldn't be the place to even consider, because you'll be
out of touch with people. Some anglers actually have a hard time being
alone. From reading your post, you sound like an instinctive fisherman,
you'll be your own guide.

The first time I hooked up on a King Salmon on a river, I was scared to
death, thought It was going to rip my arms off. I couldn't believe how
fast
it took me to the backing (seconds). My first King weighed in at 34 lbs.,

the biggest was 41 lbs. there are some that are 50+ lbs. you'll see them
if
you go.

I'm also used to the Northern California brook and rainbows, and was blown

away by the large Alaskan Leopard Rainbows...unbelievable fighters.
It's truly a thrill to get one on a dry fly.

We also caught Char, Dolly Varden, Silver Salmon, and Grayling. The first

year I was there I caught Lake Trout. Other species of salmon in the river

are the Sockeye's and Humpies, but didn't get any of those.

It's quite an experience, you may want to try it at least once in your
life if you haven't already. I have the contacts if you're interested.
The cost is also reasonable compared to other outfitters.
I also have the topo maps and GPS, and flies to use if needed.
-tom

Thats next for me a King on a fly rod
I have a place on Kodiak Island picked out
But I would love to know about the outfitter Tom used and where he went
because when I was in AK the first time - last yr
Kenai and other places were combat fishing
and I dio not want to see that again

Other places on my list - Labrador for Brookies
Patagonia
New Zealand

I dont live too far from Crowsnest Pass
And have fished the area twice
and that is a great area also w the Bow, Crowsnest and other rivers
also on the way i fished ythe YAAK river vaklley which was beautiful and
remote

Fred

wrote in message
...


Thats next for me a King on a fly rod
I have a place on Kodiak Island picked out
But I would love to know about the outfitter Tom used and where he went
because when I was in AK the first time - last yr
Kenai and other places were combat fishing
and I dio not want to see that again
Fred

Here you go:
http://www.pbadventures.com/fishing.html
Say hello to Steve & Robin for me,
-tom

On 12-Dec-2007, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:

Here you go:
http://www.pbadventures.com/fishing.html
Say hello to Steve & Robin for me,
-tom



Thanks & I will

Fred

On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:03:24 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

I turned 60 a couple weeks ago, and I've been retired 5 years.

Youngster! d;o)

Two weeks on the Rapid River in Maine for bigs brookies and landlock
salmon that tail dance across a pool.

Easy to do: Alaska. Big (31 inch) rainbows, 16 lb silvers on a 7
weight. Big kings early in the season. Dollies in the 3 - 5 lb range
become pests.

A little harder to do: Labrador for everything from 5 lb brook trout
to 38 inch pike. Lakers, landlocks, and whitefish too. (Harder
because of transportation costs. Many of the camps in Labrador are
suffering because of high airline costs. You can fly to Europe and
back two times for what it would cost flying from Boston to Lab City.)

And still harder because of costs and logistics: Kamchatka for big
rainbows. It sounds exotic and it is, but the food is horrible, and
watch out what water you use to brush your teeth. A week long float
down the Zhuponava will have you wrestling 30 inch rainbows day after
day. A thrill you will never forget - a big rainbow breaking through
a foam patch on the river to snatch your imitation mouse pattern.
Carry lots of toilet paper.

A note of warning about Penns Creek: Not meant as a slam, for it is a
wonderful place to fish, but if it rains hard for a day, the river
will get very murkey and hard to fish (if even possible). Many of the
rivers/streams in that section will also be blown out because of
rains. If you catch it without rain, however, count on big browns and
bows on dries and nymphs.

So many places, so little time.

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote

Easy to do: Alaska. Big (31 inch) rainbows, 16 lb silvers on a 7
weight. Big kings early in the season. Dollies in the 3 - 5 lb range
become pests.



None of the expedition like fishing trips have ever sparked a desire in me.

I'm looking more for "seasonal homes" than whirl wind adventures involving
boats, guides, trains, planes, and automobiles.

Indeed, Tom's "move to Centre County, Pennsylvania." hit home with me ....
I'm looking to expand my list of "adopted home waters" and with the kind of
relationship "home water" implies, at least to me.

When I found out that Chile has good fishing and my kid was going there,
first I looked around for lodges and such but before long I was researching
real estate and what might be involved in maintaining a second home there
.... I think that kinda shows my inclination and the desires I wish to fill
G


As for the type trip you enjoy and suggest, I can "understand" the appeal,
but can't say I really feel it .... but thanks for the suggestions.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:23:09 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Indeed, Tom's "move to Centre County, Pennsylvania." hit home with me ....
I'm looking to expand my list of "adopted home waters" and with the kind of
relationship "home water" implies, at least to me.

Not to belittle Centre County, PA, but the Rangeley area of Maine
offers far better fishing without the hassle of weather conditions.
There are any number of rivers/streams in that area and nearby NH that
offer some of the best fishing on the east coast as to size, quantity,
and quality, and they are all wild fish - no stockers.

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:47:12 -0500, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:23:09 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:

Indeed, Tom's "move to Centre County, Pennsylvania." hit home with me ....
I'm looking to expand my list of "adopted home waters" and with the kind of
relationship "home water" implies, at least to me.

Not to belittle Centre County, PA, but the Rangeley area of Maine
offers far better fishing without the hassle of weather conditions.
There are any number of rivers/streams in that area and nearby NH that
offer some of the best fishing on the east coast as to size, quantity,
and quality, and they are all wild fish - no stockers.

fwiw, while one can indeed find wild trout in many Maine waters in Franklin
County - particularly those with limited or no public access (Aziscohos,
Cupsuptic and Mooselookmeguntic lakes, for instance) - Maine IFW stocks
Rangely and most of the surrounding lakes and their tributaries...

http://www.maine.gov/ifw/fishing/rep...kingreport.pdf

/daytripper