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Old December 20th, 2007, 11:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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AKSkim;102056 Wrote:

The ark bit struck a raw nerve did it...


Umm no. I'm guessing you've got a decade or so on me.

What makes me concerned, is that the commentyou posted about the ark
made no sense, since I was ASKING about the history of fly fishing in my
previous post. Your post would would dictate that I was MAKING the
history of fly fishing and if so, WHY would I be asking about it?
Anyway, a few months back, you would have never made that
logical/comedic blunder. If it's not the Coronas, I shudder to think
that your mind, dare I say it, is slippin' a tad.

Carbarle deserves better, AK.
It's like old guys driving... they should know when to put down the
keys.


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Old December 21st, 2007, 01:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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Future Fanatic;102057 Wrote:


Carbarle deserves better, AK.


You just fell into the car trap. It's ok, everyone does it. EVERYONE!
When being hired here to work, I purposely spelled my name in big
legible letters to avoid all confussion. I got my login name, security
badge, etc... and they all had to be redone because of the infamous "R"
before the "B". Maybe I should change my name to accomodate everyone
else? Then again, if I change it to "Carbarle", everyone would probably
forget the "R". Now that I think about it, had they spelled my name
correctly they may not have hired me. As it probably turned out, they
couldn't find Carbarle, Carabelly, carbale, carbaly, in the most wanted
lists data base so here I am, Dennis Carbarle or something like that.


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Old December 21st, 2007, 10:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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dcabarle;102107 Wrote:
You just fell into the car trap. It's ok, everyone does it. EVERYONE!
As it probably turned out, they couldn't find Carbarle, Carabelly,
carbale, carbaly, in the most wanted lists data base so here I am,
Dennis Carbarle or something like that.


Ahhh C'mon Dennis.

You've GOTTA know it was a typo on my part! I've got an animal
around here somewhere that can prove at least, that at one time, I knew
the correct spelling!

Though I'm sorry that I dissed your good family name and the myriad of
ancestors that preceded you, it pains me to know that I am just like all
the rest of the boobs in the car trap.


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Old December 22nd, 2007, 04:07 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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dcabarle;102107 Wrote:
You just fell into the car trap. It's ok, everyone does it. EVERYONE!
When being hired here to work, I purposely spelled my name in big
legible letters to avoid all confussion. I got my login name, security
badge, etc... and they all had to be redone because of the infamous "R"
before the "B". Maybe I should change my name to accomodate everyone
else? Then again, if I change it to "Carbarle", everyone would probably
forget the "R". Now that I think about it, had they spelled my name
correctly they may not have hired me. As it probably turned out, they
couldn't find Carbarle, Carabelly, carbale, carbaly, in the most wanted
lists data base so here I am, Dennis Carbarle or something like that.


Don't feel bad.
I am forever immortalized by an accidental “Typo" by a sworn enemy on
my High School Year book Committee as “ Ralph Fork “

Now that’s not much better than a sharp stick in the eye!


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Old December 22nd, 2007, 02:09 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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People don't look or listen when spelling names. My last name is Kurt
and you wouldn't believe the trouble I have getting people to spell it
right. Four letters shouldn't be that hard.

Cdog,
Fishing with a worm and fly gear is fine with me - just not in a FFO or
Artificials only section! In the days of my youth there was more
variety in fishing techniques and the guys that could drift an
unweighted worm or salmon egg through a riffle with fly tackle were
pretty deadly. Before WWII spinning tackle wasn't available and subtle
light tackle techniques were done with fly tackle. The guys that
learned in that era did the craziest things with bait and lures using
fly tackle. With spinning tackle these days those old techniques are
sadly mostly gone.

Now for the controversial part - what is fly fishing raises so much
fuss because we have placed fly fishing on such a pedestal. It is
viewed as the highest calling for a fisherman to be pursued only by
those with the purest of souls and the highest of skills. Therefore,
attacks on your definition of fly fishing reflects on you personally -
your motives, skills, and commitment. I grew up in a world when it was
just a way to fish that was the most effective when the fish were rising
or the water was low and clear. The fly rod and floating line was also
part of your bag of tricks to present spinners, worms, flatfish, or
salmon eggs with, where legal of course.


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Old December 22nd, 2007, 03:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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New Jersey attempts to define flyfishing in it's regulations for -FLY
FISHING AREAS- 1) Only artificial flies are allowed, which are expressly limited to dry
flies, wet flies, bucktails, nymphs and streamers. Expressly prohibited
are metal, plastic, or wooden lures, plugs, spinners, and flies with
spinners attached or any multiple-hooked device. Spinning reels or any
type of angling whereby a fly is cast directly from the reel are
expressly prohibited.

2) Possession or use of bait (live or preserved) or any substance
(natural or synthetic) that contains a concentration of bait scent is
prohibited.

3) Fishing is not permitted during the in-season stocking closures.I guess we could argue about whether or not an unscented GloBug can be

considered a "wet fly".....

BUT, AS LONG AS WE'RE BEING SILLY... Is a fly with a gold, copper or any other metalic rib a "*metal*"
lure? I guess a "brassie" or a "copper john" is out of the question.
What about the metal in a hook?

Is a fly containing mylar, synthetic fur or yarn, or any other
man-made material a "*Plastic*" lure?

Is a fly containing natural furs, feathers, or any other animal part
"*scented*"?

Is a powerful forward cast that yanks a few inches of line from the
reel "*Cast directly from the reel*"?Since a bare hook (or no hook) is not included in "-dry flies, wet
flies, bucktails, nymphs and streamers-", one can only conclude that
fishing New Jersey's fly-only waters is impossible to do legally.


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Old December 22nd, 2007, 09:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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JeffK;102165 Wrote:
People don't look or listen when spelling names. My last name is Kurt
and you wouldn't believe the trouble I have getting people to spell it
right. Four letters shouldn't be that hard.

Cdog,
Fishing with a worm and fly gear is fine with me - just not in a FFO or
Artificials only section! In the days of my youth there was more variety
in fishing techniques and the guys that could drift an unweighted worm
or salmon egg through a riffle with fly tackle were pretty deadly.
Before WWII spinning tackle wasn't available and subtle light tackle
techniques were done with fly tackle. The guys that learned in that era
did the craziest things with bait and lures using fly tackle. With
spinning tackle these days those old techniques are sadly mostly gone.

Now for the controversial part - what is fly fishing raises so much
fuss because we have placed fly fishing on such a pedestal. It is viewed
as the highest calling for a fisherman to be pursued only by those with
the purest of souls and the highest of skills. Therefore, attacks on
your definition of fly fishing reflects on you personally - your
motives, skills, and commitment. I grew up in a world when it was just a
way to fish that was the most effective when the fish were rising or the
water was low and clear. The fly rod and floating line was also part of
your bag of tricks to present spinners, worms, flatfish, or salmon eggs
with, where legal of course.


Hey Kurp...oops sorry Kurt,

Your point about fly fishing being put on a pedistal is true and has
given it a bad rap. I have friends that I fish walleye and smallies
with that won't start fly fishing cause they say their (including me) a
bunch of snobs abd stuckups. I try to defend fly fishing and they tell
me a story about the guy they ran into with a fly rod that wouldn't even
say hi when they passed by with a spinning rod. I've heard this
countless times from many people.

Unfortunately, their teaching their kids what they think about fly
fishermen and that's hurting the future of our sport.

Question: How do you keep a worm on the hook on the backcast? lol

Cdog


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Old December 23rd, 2007, 04:15 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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JeffK;102165 Wrote:
It is viewed as the highest calling for a fisherman to be pursued only
by those with the purest of souls and the highest of skills.


As always, count me in.

AK Skim
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 04:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying
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AKSkim;102221 Wrote:
As always, count me in.

AK Skim
aka. Mr. Zenith


Should we interpert "Mr. Zenith" as in one who sits in front of his old
television set watching sports all day instead of fishing and giving us
reports or as Webster defines it, "The highest point of anything." ???

Just curious,
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