Insect knowledge/applying it on the stream

When fishing a stream and seeing risers how do you usually base your
decision on what fly to use? although looking at the water can sometimes
tell you what flies are on the surface or just below, many times the
bugs being taken are not in sight and or if they are arent the ones
being eaten.
I feel like i usually base my fly selection on rise form first then
select a fly that coincides with that sort of rise. Slash=caddis pupa or
emerging mayflies for that time of year if the time of the rise makes
sense with an emergence,small dimple=tiny olive parachute or a dropper
technique, and so on. This works many times although its not as if I
nessesarily match the hatch but instead match the level of water the
fish may be feeding in.

just curious to see the thought process everyone else goes through when
working with rising fish.


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flyI4 wrote:
When fishing a stream and seeing risers how do you usually base your
decision on what fly to use? ...
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just curious to see the thought process everyone else goes through when
working with rising fish.

Thought process, schmought process, just pick a bug off the
water or a streamside branch or off your friggin' hat and tie
one on that looks pretty close. Good grief, this ain't rocket
science and you don't need to speak Latin.

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Ken Fortenberry

If it was as easy as just picking a fly that looks close off your hat
more people would flyfish instead of spinfish. Coming close rarely cuts
it on a large wild or holdover trout especially on slow dry fly pools or
tailwater fisheries.


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If it was as easy as just picking a fly that looks close off your hat
more people would flyfish instead of spinfish. Coming close rarely cuts
it on a large wild or holdover trout especially on slow dry fly pools or
tailwater fisheries.

a. Do not attribute this to an extra skill needed as opposed to
laziness.
b. Coming "far" usually works much better (when was the last time you
saw a bug with a red circle around his body).
Frank Reid

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:20:04 -0500, flyI4
wrote:

If it was as easy as just picking a fly that looks close off your hat
more people would flyfish instead of spinfish. Coming close rarely cuts
it on a large wild or holdover trout especially on slow dry fly pools or
tailwater fisheries.

Uh, duh, if you open your *eyes* and *look* at the insects, you can
get a pretty good idea of what they are. Mayflies, caddis flies,
flying ants, stoneflies, et al all look and fly differently. If you
can not distinguish between them, you should probably be spin fishing.

Once you have identified the insect as a caddis or whater, it is easy
to select the right color and size.

And, YES, just about everybody that haunts this nut house known as
roff has fished for wild trout, and they are all successful. So, they
*must* be doing something right.

We all wear BIG hats btw.

In article , Dave LaCourse
writes
Uh, duh, if you open your *eyes* and *look* at the insects, you can
get a pretty good idea of what they are. Mayflies, caddis flies,
flying ants, stoneflies, et al all look and fly differently. If you
can not distinguish between them, you should probably be spin fishing.

If there is a large rise of a particular insect, then yours should be
something bigger and better - the fish need to differentiate between and
exact replica and the real thing.

Dave - you swore - you said SPIN :-)
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Bill Grey