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Old December 28th, 2007, 06:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Oh and by the way, if you are consistently casting 70 feet from a boat
etc using small dry flies and turning them over accurately, then you
are well above average, and there is no reason why you should not be
able to use the gear described above. But if you take a couple of
lessons, and practice a little, you will be able to do what you want
to do easily and consistently.

In order to pick up, aerialise, and re-cast 70 feet of line in one
move, ( in the range #4 to #6 line and rods) you need a fast rod, and
the appropriate line. Nothing else will work. This is also exacerbated
by you sitting low down, you lose some height on the cast, but a long
rod will not compensate for that. Longer rods are only of advantage
if you can use them, or for specific purposes. Long casting is not one
of these purposes. Nine feet is about the maximum length most normally
built people can handle, even more so if it is a stiff rod. This is
because of the leverage. The added length will only allow you to cast
a little further if you can use the extra leverage, and most people can
´t. Not even many tournament casters, they stick to nine foot rods for
distance casting.

TL
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Old December 28th, 2007, 06:33 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Best rod/line for ....

You want an FFF certified master instructor. If you tell me where you
are located ( roughly, next large town) I will try and get hold of
Bill Gammel and see if he knows anyone near you.

You can read some of his stuff here. http://www.sexyloops.com/articles/ad...onthefly.shtml

TL
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Old December 28th, 2007, 06:41 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Best rod/line for ....

You could just use this;

http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Default.aspx?tabid=4465

TL
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Old December 28th, 2007, 10:29 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Larry L
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Default Best rod/line for ....


"Mike" wrote in message
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You could just use this;

http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Default.aspx?tabid=4465

TL
MC



Thanks,

I know a certified instructor that is a hell of a nice guy, maybe I'll talk
to him about a lesson or two.

I have, and admit to, a certain 'irrational' fear of learning just enough to
get really screwed up. As it is, I manage to get the fly where I want it
often enough to catch enough fish to keep me playing the game. I fear that
if I get all self-conscious about little bodily motion details I'll no
longer be able to fish as well and will become a total clutz instead of a
self-taught poor caster that can only blame his teacher.

I'm sure this makes no sense, but heah, I've never seen "make sense" as a
rule of ROFFian posting G


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Old December 28th, 2007, 11:22 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mike[_6_]
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Default Best rod/line for ....

On Dec 28, 11:29 pm, "Larry L" wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...

You could just use this;


http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Default.aspx?tabid=4465


TL
MC


Thanks,

I know a certified instructor that is a hell of a nice guy, maybe I'll talk
to him about a lesson or two.

I have, and admit to, a certain 'irrational' fear of learning just enough to
get really screwed up. As it is, I manage to get the fly where I want it
often enough to catch enough fish to keep me playing the game. I fear that
if I get all self-conscious about little bodily motion details I'll no
longer be able to fish as well and will become a total clutz instead of a
self-taught poor caster that can only blame his teacher.

I'm sure this makes no sense, but heah, I've never seen "make sense" as a
rule of ROFFian posting G



I understand completely. It is quite common. Many years ago now,
after a fly-dressing demo, I met Jack Martin for the first time. His
first question was , "You dress nice flies, do you think you can put
them where they need to be?" ( which was actually in response to
something somebody else had said). " I do all right" I replied. He
merely handed me the rod he was holding, and indicated the obstacle
course set up on the pond we were at. I got round it with a lot of
messing on, and when he took the rod back off me at the end of it, he
said "Very promising", would you like me to show you how I do it?".
He went on to do a perfect round with extreme speed and elegance. He
gave me a few lessons after that, allowed me to use some of his large
number of rods for various things, and I never looked back. Of course
I practised a bit as well.

The self-conciousness only lasts as long as it takes to imbue the new
muscle memory. It is merely a matter of training yourself to do
something slightly differently, and iron out a few ingrained mistakes.
This is much easier to do if you have a good instructor. As you are
indeed a long term "self-taught" caster, you will doubtless be more
than surprised at your own abilities once you get a new angle on some
things. Often the improvements in such cases are immediate and quite
massive. In a very short time, you simply "forget" how you used to do
things, and the improved ability actually allows you to concentrate
MORE on the game, and less on the equipment. You will even be able to
recreate the mistakes you were making unconsciously before, and did
not even realise were mistakes, at will.

Try it. Do yourself a massive favour, and save yourself a lot of time,
frustration, and money! Of course, it might cost you money as well,
as you might well want other gear after it!

TL
MC

 




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