The other adult beverage.....

Wolfgang wrote:

Yeah, I've messed around with all sorts of brewing methods for a long long
time. The French Press method looked appealing, and I still know a lot of
people who prefer it, but it does nothing at all for me.....too much sort of
in between and undecided in terms of get the grounds out or leave them in.
Percolators are an abomination, no need to equivocate. My favorite is the
drip method.....through unbleached paper, thank you very much, none of the
reusable (reuseless, if you ask me) wire mesh crap. Second
best.....surprisingly.....is cowboy coffee, which pretty much rapes all the
conventional wisdom about brewing coffee.

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea
which I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the
base with water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little
metal filter cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and
place on fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}


Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)

In article , Conan The Librarian
wrote:


Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea
which I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the
base with water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little
metal filter cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and
place on fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}


Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)


Hi Conan.

Yours is in fact the MOST IMPORTANT post
on this VERY IMPORTANT thread.

the point is that the machine that you have described, easy to use
anywhere, is, in fact what I have referred to as a 'Moka machine'.

It is cheap, and universally used at home by every Italian I have ever
met, from Count to peasant, and I think both I and steve (who knows
far more than I do) believe that Italians are quite smart on
coffee-making.

All you have to do is to put decent coffee into the bowl, obey the
instructions, and you have an excellent cup of coffee.

It's a bit......... like fishing...............


take a bit of hare's ear

tie it onto a small hook (you don't need to do this very well)

cast it so that it lands delicately in front of., and floats down
towards without drag, a hungry trout (this you DO need to do well)

and you have yourself a great fish.

No snobbery in either. Just a matter of judgment about what matters and
what doesn't.

for which experience helps.

Lazarus

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Background: I ran across a cheap (~$20?) espresso maker from Ikea which
I thought might work for camping. It's a basic design; fill the base with
water to just below the vent, put your grounds in the little metal filter
cup that goes on top of the water chamber, screw on top and place on
fire/burner.

When the water starts to boil, the coffee is forced up through the
grounds and a nozzle in the top chamber. Remove from fire when all you
hear is a hissing sound and no more coffee is coming from the nozzle.

It makes a pretty good cup of coffee, and is fast.

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it. I've
found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs perfectly.


Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}

The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their beans to
make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be worse than any
other.

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little River
on a cool morning)

Yeah, that was good.

Wolfgang

Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it. I've
found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs perfectly.


That's cool. I also enjoyed mooching your advice and that Pass
Lake. :-)

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}

The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their beans to
make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be worse than any
other.

It's sort of the McDonalds of the coffee world in that respect.

And to tie in with another part of this thread: McDonalds in
Canuckistan have been serving pretty decent coffee for quite a while. I
never drink coffee at convenience stores or fast food restaurants, but
Carol told me to try some one day and I was surprised at how much it
tasted like real coffee. :-}

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little River
on a cool morning)

Yeah, that was good.

Indeed. And I hope to repeat that scene this year. Nothing
finalized yet, but it looks like Carol has resigned herself to the fact
that I plan to make the trip again. She even got me some new speakers
for my car for xmas, saying if I was gonna be driving all those miles, I
should at least have some decent sound in there. :-)

So I should be back about the same time of year (early May), and I
plan to camp in the same spot if possible.

I'll bring my coffee maker ... you bring the beans. :-)


Chuck Vance (and a few Pass Lakes)

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it.
I've found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs
perfectly.

That's cool. I also enjoyed mooching your advice and that Pass Lake.
:-)

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}
The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their
beans to make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be
worse than any other.

It's sort of the McDonalds of the coffee world in that respect.

And to tie in with another part of this thread: McDonalds in
Canuckistan have been serving pretty decent coffee for quite a while. I
never drink coffee at convenience stores or fast food restaurants, but
Carol told me to try some one day and I was surprised at how much it
tasted like real coffee. :-}

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)
Yeah, that was good.

Indeed. And I hope to repeat that scene this year. Nothing finalized
yet, but it looks like Carol has resigned herself to the fact that I plan
to make the trip again. She even got me some new speakers for my car for
xmas, saying if I was gonna be driving all those miles, I should at least
have some decent sound in there. :-)

So I should be back about the same time of year (early May), and I plan
to camp in the same spot if possible.

I'll bring my coffee maker ... you bring the beans. :-)


Chuck Vance (and a few Pass Lakes)

I'm currently trying to decide which of several time slots and venues Jeff
has proposed to take him up on. So many choices, so little time!

Wolfgang

In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:


"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies like
I had at my campsite?

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it.
I've found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs
perfectly.

That's cool. I also enjoyed mooching your advice and that Pass Lake.
:-)

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}
The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their
beans to make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be
worse than any other.

It's sort of the McDonalds of the coffee world in that respect.

And to tie in with another part of this thread: McDonalds in
Canuckistan have been serving pretty decent coffee for quite a while. I
never drink coffee at convenience stores or fast food restaurants, but
Carol told me to try some one day and I was surprised at how much it
tasted like real coffee. :-}

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)
Yeah, that was good.

Indeed. And I hope to repeat that scene this year. Nothing finalized
yet, but it looks like Carol has resigned herself to the fact that I plan
to make the trip again. She even got me some new speakers for my car for
xmas, saying if I was gonna be driving all those miles, I should at least
have some decent sound in there. :-)

So I should be back about the same time of year (early May), and I plan
to camp in the same spot if possible.

I'll bring my coffee maker ... you bring the beans. :-)


Chuck Vance (and a few Pass Lakes)

I'm currently trying to decide which of several time slots and venues Jeff
has proposed to take him up on. So many choices, so little time!

Wolfgang

testiclelicker

"Janice" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:


"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like
I had at my campsite?

Nah, I haven't gotten one. Espresso is something I like every once in
a
great while.....not enough to justify buying apparatus for making it.
I've found that mooching off of fishing companions suits my needs
perfectly.

That's cool. I also enjoyed mooching your advice and that Pass
Lake.
:-)

Now if Wolfgang can just forgive me for using Starbucks (aka,
"Charbucks") in the thing. :-}
The one nice thing about Starbucks is that you can use any of their
beans to make espresso. No, it won't be good, but none of it will be
worse than any other.

It's sort of the McDonalds of the coffee world in that respect.

And to tie in with another part of this thread: McDonalds in
Canuckistan have been serving pretty decent coffee for quite a while.
I
never drink coffee at convenience stores or fast food restaurants, but
Carol told me to try some one day and I was surprised at how much it
tasted like real coffee. :-}

Chuck Vance (who admits to knowing next to nothing at all about
coffee, except it goes nicely with a cig when sitting by the Little
River on a cool morning)
Yeah, that was good.

Indeed. And I hope to repeat that scene this year. Nothing
finalized
yet, but it looks like Carol has resigned herself to the fact that I
plan
to make the trip again. She even got me some new speakers for my car
for
xmas, saying if I was gonna be driving all those miles, I should at
least
have some decent sound in there. :-)

So I should be back about the same time of year (early May), and I
plan
to camp in the same spot if possible.

I'll bring my coffee maker ... you bring the beans. :-)


Chuck Vance (and a few Pass Lakes)

I'm currently trying to decide which of several time slots and venues
Jeff
has proposed to take him up on. So many choices, so little time!

Wolfgang

testiclelicker

Nuance is sort of a specialty of yours, huh?

Wolfgang

On Jan 11, 9:27*am, Conan The Librarian wrote:

* * Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Not only do they make a good cuppa fairly quickly but they are also
pretty light in weight- the cast aluminum ones anyhow. I've got a
medium sized one that lives in my car-camping equipment box, but it's
been known to sneak its way into my backpack for away-from-the-car
trips as well. The small amount of extra weight is worth it! (For
me, that is. Tom N's packing list impresses me, but I need at least a
FEW niceties on the trail!)


B

wrote:

On Jan 11, 9:27 am, Conan The Librarian wrote:

Did you ever get one of those little Ikea espresso maker thingies
like I had at my campsite?

Not only do they make a good cuppa fairly quickly but they are also
pretty light in weight- the cast aluminum ones anyhow.

Is this the one?: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80080535

I've got a
medium sized one that lives in my car-camping equipment box, but it's
been known to sneak its way into my backpack for away-from-the-car
trips as well. The small amount of extra weight is worth it! (For
me, that is. Tom N's packing list impresses me, but I need at least a
FEW niceties on the trail!)

Trail? Oh, you mean where you actually carry all the stuff on your
back and *then* set up camp.

I used to do that too. These days I have a slightly different
definition for "roughing it".


Chuck Vance (just ask Jeff and Wolfgang)

On Jan 11, 11:07 am, Conan The Librarian wrote:
wrote:
Not only do they make a good cuppa fairly quickly but they are also
pretty light in weight- the cast aluminum ones anyhow.

Is this the one?:http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80080535

Well, that one uses the same method, but is likely made of stainless.
I've got a couple various shapes and sizes like that at home. The one
I camp with is cast aluminum like this:

http://bialettishop.com/Merchant2/gr...xpressMiva.jpg

B