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Old January 11th, 2008, 04:03 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
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never have bothered to roast the stuff myself(and, yet, I have frequently
roasted peanuts and other beans, so I figure it isn't beyond
comprehension).


Peanuts, sure. What other beans does one roast?

However, I do, whenever possible grind my own blends and try a lot of
different roasted beans. The real Blue Mountain is nice, several African
beans I have had are unique tasting, sort of winey in flavor. I do often
mix the latter with some sort of Central American arabica into a blend
that suits my none-too-sophisticated palate. At any rate, simply going
fresh-ground beats the crap in cans, so I would imagine that roasting
would add something as well, along with the usual do it yourself sort of
satisfaction with the process.


Aside from the self-evident freshness (and granting that fresh is
better.....which no one here has contested) factor, roasting also adds one
degree or another of ritual, a consideration easily dismissed by some, but
important to many others.

Wolfgang


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Old January 11th, 2008, 04:48 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Jan 11, 11:03*am, "Wolfgang" wrote:
roasting also adds one
degree or another of ritual, a consideration easily dismissed by some, but
important to many others.


My first thought is it's the difference between taste and enjoyment.
In thinking about it, however, I can't come up with many "rituals" I
enjoy beyond food and drink. I simply will not drink gin without the
ritual of shaking it with ice & serving in an appropriate glass. I
don't drink tea without boiling fresh water. I like to knead bread,
though the machine stuff tastes just as good. I'm incapable of
chopping vegetables with a carving knife. (Okay, maybe I'm bordering
on OCD here.)

When I was a more frequent pipe smoker, the subtle rituals of properly
packing a hand-carved Danish pipe, etc. were pointlessly important.
(i.e. Sure, you can stuff some Captain Black into a Dr. Grabow & light
it; but that's just smoking, not enjoying the smoke.)

Joe F.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 05:27 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Aside from peanuts, one specific type of bean you might try is the
"peaberry" coffee bean. Your standard bean comes, I believe, two to a
husk. The peaberry, on the other hand, is the only bean in the husk/
pod. Its smaller and round (hence the "pea" berry name). This bean
has tons more flavor than any other I've ever tasted. Give it a shot.
When I married my bride, I would just dump a teaspoon of Sanka
crystals in a cup of hot water. My coffee tastebuds had been
destroyed by mid-shift, burnt urn coffee, so the Sanka was a big step
up.
Now, my bride has dragged me up from the depths of coffee epicures to
fresh ground (i.e. she buys bulk beans and grinds them as she makes
the pot up for me) coffee with well-filtered water (this, I believe is
one of the keys) that has had a chance to set open overnight, reducing
the clorine levels.
Granted, I'm not up to the levels of roasting my own beans yet, then
again, with the new house and kitchen on the way, I may soon have an
opportunity.
Frank Reid

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Old January 11th, 2008, 06:02 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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Aside from peanuts, one specific type of bean you might try is the
"peaberry" coffee bean. Your standard bean comes, I believe, two to a
husk. The peaberry, on the other hand, is the only bean in the husk/
pod. Its smaller and round (hence the "pea" berry name). This bean
has tons more flavor than any other I've ever tasted. Give it a shot.


Yeah, I've been reading a bit about peaberries. Definitely on my list.

When I married my bride, I would just dump a teaspoon of Sanka
crystals in a cup of hot water. My coffee tastebuds had been
destroyed by mid-shift, burnt urn coffee, so the Sanka was a big step
up.


It's been a long time since I subjected myself to "instant coffee".....but I
remember. It's hard to imagine anything so wretched that instant would be a
step up.

Now, my bride has dragged me up from the depths of coffee epicures to
fresh ground (i.e. she buys bulk beans and grinds them as she makes
the pot up for me) coffee with well-filtered water (this, I believe is
one of the keys) that has had a chance to set open overnight, reducing
the clorine levels.


I haven't quite gone so far as filtering the water or allowing the chlorine
to outgas......yet. We'll see.

Granted, I'm not up to the levels of roasting my own beans yet, then
again, with the new house and kitchen on the way, I may soon have an
opportunity.


Give it a try. I think you'll like the results and, if you just roast some
in a pan you don't need to worry about a significant cash outlay.

However, I have to stress once again that roasting coffee creates a very
powerful aroma! When I got home from work yesterday, twelve hours after
roasting in the early morning, the apartment still reeked of it. Henceforth
(at least until open window season) I'll be doing it out on the porch.

Wolfgang


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Old January 11th, 2008, 06:20 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Now, my bride has dragged me up from the depths of coffee epicures to
fresh ground (i.e. she buys bulk beans and grinds them as she makes
the pot up for me) coffee with well-filtered water (this, I believe is
one of the keys) that has had a chance to set open overnight, reducing
the clorine levels.


I haven't quite gone so far as filtering the water or allowing the
chlorine to outgas......yet. We'll see.


Wolfgang


No need to filter, because as you bring the H20 to near boil, the
chlorine will evaporate. Or just use spring water sold in the local
supermarkets. 89 cents a gal.

We visit Peets once a week and only buy 1/4 lb. bag of whole bean.
I always ask when they're expecting their weekly shipment.
Their min. size for sale is 1/4 lb. plus they will give you a free cup
of coffee, sometimes they forget to ask you that, you'll have to remind them
for the freebie.
-tom


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Old January 11th, 2008, 07:00 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Now, my bride has dragged me up from the depths of coffee epicures to
fresh ground (i.e. she buys bulk beans and grinds them as she makes
the pot up for me) coffee with well-filtered water (this, I believe is
one of the keys) that has had a chance to set open overnight, reducing
the clorine levels.


I haven't quite gone so far as filtering the water or allowing the
chlorine to outgas......yet. We'll see.


Wolfgang


No need to filter, because as you bring the H20 to near boil, the
chlorine will evaporate.


All things take time. Evaporation, necessarily, only occurs at the
air/water interface or "meniscus," if you will. No expert on fluid dynamics
myself, but I suspect that complete elimination of chlorine from a liter of
water (or thereabouts) in the time it takes to brew a pot of coffee ain't
gonna happen.

Or just use spring water sold in the local supermarkets. 89 cents a gal.


Or just let the tap water sit out overnight.

We visit Peets once a week and only buy 1/4 lb. bag of whole bean.
I always ask when they're expecting their weekly shipment.
Their min. size for sale is 1/4 lb.


A quick check confirms that the nearest Peet's store to me is in Evanston,
Illinois......about 83 miles from here. Looking briefly at their website, I
find no evidence that they sell green beans. The Coffee Project, on the
other hand, definitely sells the green beans and they ship from two
locations, somewhere in southern California which, admittedly, is a longer
ride than Evanston, and Muskego, Wisconsin. I can't quite hit Muskego with
a rock from here, but I can get there in the time it takes to finish a good
hot cup of freshly roasted and brewed coffee. And, anyway, the brown truck
can get here (with green beans) by tomorrow if I order today.

plus they will give you a free cup of coffee, sometimes
they forget to ask you that, you'll have to remind them
for the freebie.


Well, I DO drift down toward the Chicago area once in a while. Next time I
find myself in Evanston......

Thanks.

Wolfgang


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Old January 11th, 2008, 07:45 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

Now, my bride has dragged me up from the depths of coffee epicures to
fresh ground (i.e. she buys bulk beans and grinds them as she makes
the pot up for me) coffee with well-filtered water (this, I believe is
one of the keys) that has had a chance to set open overnight, reducing
the clorine levels.

I haven't quite gone so far as filtering the water or allowing the
chlorine to outgas......yet. We'll see.


Wolfgang


No need to filter, because as you bring the H20 to near boil, the
chlorine will evaporate.


All things take time. Evaporation, necessarily, only occurs at the
air/water interface or "meniscus," if you will. No expert on fluid
dynamics myself, but I suspect that complete elimination of chlorine from
a liter of water (or thereabouts) in the time it takes to brew a pot of
coffee ain't gonna happen.


Not sure what percentage of chlorine is in tap water, but I'm sure it's a
very small amount (millionths per?)....at least not enough to kill you (I
think) or detect with your tastebuds as you bring it to a near boil.


Or just use spring water sold in the local supermarkets. 89 cents a gal.


Or just let the tap water sit out overnight.

We visit Peets once a week and only buy 1/4 lb. bag of whole bean.
I always ask when they're expecting their weekly shipment.
Their min. size for sale is 1/4 lb.


A quick check confirms that the nearest Peet's store to me is in Evanston,
Illinois......about 83 miles from here. Looking briefly at their website,
I find no evidence that they sell green beans. The Coffee Project, on the
other hand, definitely sells the green beans and they ship from two
locations, somewhere in southern California which, admittedly, is a longer
ride than Evanston, and Muskego, Wisconsin. I can't quite hit Muskego
with a rock from here, but I can get there in the time it takes to

finish a good hot cup of freshly roasted and brewed coffee. And, anyway,
the brown truck can get here (with green beans) by tomorrow if I order
today.


A lot of folks have use mail order...3-day air.
Unless you're ordering kilos of Columbian blend through Juan Valdez.


plus they will give you a free cup of coffee, sometimes
they forget to ask you that, you'll have to remind them
for the freebie.


Well, I DO drift down toward the Chicago area once in a while. Next time
I find myself in Evanston......

Thanks.

Wolfgang




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Old January 11th, 2008, 09:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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A lot of folks have use mail order...3-day air.
Unless you're ordering kilos of Columbian blend through Juan Valdez.


Hmm, kilos of Columbian by 3-day air? No wonder Starbucks makes such
huge profits.

Frank Reid


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Old January 13th, 2008, 11:21 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

All things take time. Evaporation, necessarily, only occurs at the
air/water interface or "meniscus," if you will. No expert on fluid dynamics
myself, but I suspect that complete elimination of chlorine from a liter of
water (or thereabouts) in the time it takes to brew a pot of coffee ain't
gonna happen.

Or just use spring water sold in the local supermarkets. 89 cents a gal.


Or just let the tap water sit out overnight.

We visit Peets once a week and only buy 1/4 lb. bag of whole bean.
I always ask when they're expecting their weekly shipment.
Their min. size for sale is 1/4 lb.


A quick check confirms that the nearest Peet's store to me is in Evanston,
Illinois......about 83 miles from here. Looking briefly at their website, I
find no evidence that they sell green beans. The Coffee Project, on the
other hand, definitely sells the green beans and they ship from two
locations, somewhere in southern California which, admittedly, is a longer
ride than Evanston, and Muskego, Wisconsin. I can't quite hit Muskego with
a rock from here, but I can get there in the time it takes to finish a good
hot cup of freshly roasted and brewed coffee. And, anyway, the brown truck
can get here (with green beans) by tomorrow if I order today.

plus they will give you a free cup of coffee, sometimes
they forget to ask you that, you'll have to remind them
for the freebie.


Well, I DO drift down toward the Chicago area once in a while. Next time I
find myself in Evanston......

Thanks.

Wolfgang


Lover of Britney Spears music
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Old January 14th, 2008, 02:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Janice" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Wolfgang" wrote:

All things take time. Evaporation, necessarily, only occurs at the
air/water interface or "meniscus," if you will. No expert on fluid
dynamics
myself, but I suspect that complete elimination of chlorine from a liter
of
water (or thereabouts) in the time it takes to brew a pot of coffee ain't
gonna happen.

Or just use spring water sold in the local supermarkets. 89 cents a
gal.


Or just let the tap water sit out overnight.

We visit Peets once a week and only buy 1/4 lb. bag of whole bean.
I always ask when they're expecting their weekly shipment.
Their min. size for sale is 1/4 lb.


A quick check confirms that the nearest Peet's store to me is in
Evanston,
Illinois......about 83 miles from here. Looking briefly at their
website, I
find no evidence that they sell green beans. The Coffee Project, on the
other hand, definitely sells the green beans and they ship from two
locations, somewhere in southern California which, admittedly, is a
longer
ride than Evanston, and Muskego, Wisconsin. I can't quite hit Muskego
with
a rock from here, but I can get there in the time it takes to finish a
good
hot cup of freshly roasted and brewed coffee. And, anyway, the brown
truck
can get here (with green beans) by tomorrow if I order today.

plus they will give you a free cup of coffee, sometimes
they forget to ask you that, you'll have to remind them
for the freebie.


Well, I DO drift down toward the Chicago area once in a while. Next time
I
find myself in Evanston......

Thanks.

Wolfgang


Lover of Britney Spears music


Ah, now that is an interesting bit of speculation. In fact, I can't think
of the name of so much as one of her songs. It's possible that I DO like
some of her music......I wouldn't know. However, it doesn't seem likely to
me because I don't listen to radio stations that are likely to play any of
her stuff, I don't have any of her CDs, and nobody I know has ever (to the
best of my recollection) said "Hey, you gotta listen to this" with regard to
anything she's done.

Wolfgang


 




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