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I've been daydreamin' and mentioning same to my wonderful bride to the point
that she has picked up on my urge and 'more or less' authorized a trip to Patagonia ( will have to be next season ... about a year from now ). I'm a bumpkin and don't really know how all you world traveler types organize and manage the various essentials of such trips. I ain't been on a airplane in close to twenty years, for instance. So, when you guys go to Alaska or Pango Pango or etc ... do you take all your camping equipment with you, or buy most stuff when you get there ( I'm thinking so far of about a month to six weeks of DIY fishing, mainly camping but with enough hotel time to not go nuts, or start attracting condors FWIW, I've researched the DIY thing enough to feel confident that it's fully possible ... I will probably pay for access to a place or two, but not guides and lodges ) Larry L ( who is still at the daydream stage but feels good about his chances of pullin' this one off ) ( and who thinks this place needs a boost that isn't from caffeine ;-) |
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![]() "Larry L" wrote in message ... I've been daydreamin' and mentioning same to my wonderful bride to the point that she has picked up on my urge and 'more or less' authorized a trip to Patagonia ( will have to be next season ... about a year from now ). I'm a bumpkin and don't really know how all you world traveler types organize and manage the various essentials of such trips. I ain't been on a airplane in close to twenty years, for instance. So, when you guys go to Alaska or Pango Pango or etc ... do you take all your camping equipment with you, or buy most stuff when you get there ( I'm thinking so far of about a month to six weeks of DIY fishing, mainly camping but with enough hotel time to not go nuts, or start attracting condors FWIW, I've researched the DIY thing enough to feel confident that it's fully possible ... I will probably pay for access to a place or two, but not guides and lodges ) Larry L ( who is still at the daydream stage but feels good about his chances of pullin' this one off ) ( and who thinks this place needs a boost that isn't from caffeine ;-) If you were planning on camping I would look at renting a camper. May be called a caravan if like Europe. It can be cold and rainy in Patagonia from what I have seen. Not been to the south of Chile, just Santiago and to the North. You may look in to B&B's. They are cheaper than most hotels after you leave the USA. At least in Europe where we have traveled a fair bit. Staying at small hotels / B&B's will also get you in touch with the people and they may give you points on where to fish. Food is good there. They do love meat. Been a few years, but I think the big meat sandwich is a "Lomita". Get a good phrase book for Spanish as well as guide book. Look at the Moon, Frommers, etc. get one you like the layout of. They speak mostly Spanish and German. Especially outside the cities. There are Internet Cafes everywhere these days, so you can keep in touch with home via email for little cost. Contact your bank and credit card companies before going and inform them of the time you will be gone and where you will be. Otherwise, you might find out your cards do not work. Credit card companies tag a 1-3% kicker on international transactions. So find you what your company charges and go with the cheaper on. ATM's are the best for getting cash. Best exchange rate, and low ATM fee if any from the out of country bank. I had them raise my daily limit, so needed less trips to the ATM. Make sure you have a 4 digit PIN number. Do not know of any 6 digits anymore, but at one time Wells Fargo did. Check with an international travel doctor specialist if there are any special shots you need. I do recommend a Hepatitis shot. My doctor said that if you have to go to a doctor down there, there is a possibility of blood on a gurney, etc. Take some Cipro in case of a bad bug. ATTN: Do not take dairy after the Cipro regimen. Kills the good bacteria also, and since the upper intestine handles dairy and the bacteria are gone, the lower intestine gets to do the job and it has a field day with dairy. You will need lots of TP in that case. Been there, found out later about the dairy problems. |
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![]() "Calif Bill" wrote tons of good stuff snipped Thanks Bill .... I noticed you over on a travel forum and thought maybe you were planning a trip south ? |
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![]() "Larry L" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote tons of good stuff snipped Thanks Bill .... I noticed you over on a travel forum and thought maybe you were planning a trip south ? Costa Rica. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Larry L" wrote in message ... I've been daydreamin' and mentioning same to my wonderful bride to the point that she has picked up on my urge and 'more or less' authorized a trip to Patagonia ( will have to be next season ... about a year from now ). I'm a bumpkin and don't really know how all you world traveler types organize and manage the various essentials of such trips. I ain't been on a airplane in close to twenty years, for instance. So, when you guys go to Alaska or Pango Pango or etc ... do you take all your camping equipment with you, or buy most stuff when you get there ( I'm thinking so far of about a month to six weeks of DIY fishing, mainly camping but with enough hotel time to not go nuts, or start attracting condors FWIW, I've researched the DIY thing enough to feel confident that it's fully possible ... I will probably pay for access to a place or two, but not guides and lodges ) Larry L ( who is still at the daydream stage but feels good about his chances of pullin' this one off ) ( and who thinks this place needs a boost that isn't from caffeine ;-) If you were planning on camping I would look at renting a camper. May be called a caravan if like Europe. It can be cold and rainy in Patagonia from what I have seen. Not been to the south of Chile, just Santiago and to the North. You may look in to B&B's. They are cheaper than most hotels after you leave the USA. At least in Europe where we have traveled a fair bit. Staying at small hotels / B&B's will also get you in touch with the people and they may give you points on where to fish. Food is good there. They do love meat. Been a few years, but I think the big meat sandwich is a "Lomita". Get a good phrase book for Spanish as well as guide book. Look at the Moon, Frommers, etc. get one you like the layout of. They speak mostly Spanish and German. Especially outside the cities. There are Internet Cafes everywhere these days, so you can keep in touch with home via email for little cost. Contact your bank and credit card companies before going and inform them of the time you will be gone and where you will be. Otherwise, you might find out your cards do not work. Credit card companies tag a 1-3% kicker on international transactions. So find you what your company charges and go with the cheaper on. ATM's are the best for getting cash. Best exchange rate, and low ATM fee if any from the out of country bank. I had them raise my daily limit, so needed less trips to the ATM. Make sure you have a 4 digit PIN number. Do not know of any 6 digits anymore, but at one time Wells Fargo did. Check with an international travel doctor specialist if there are any special shots you need. I do recommend a Hepatitis shot. My doctor said that if you have to go to a doctor down there, there is a possibility of blood on a gurney, etc. Take some Cipro in case of a bad bug. ATTN: Do not take dairy after the Cipro regimen. Kills the good bacteria also, and since the upper intestine handles dairy and the bacteria are gone, the lower intestine gets to do the job and it has a field day with dairy. You will need lots of TP in that case. Been there, found out later about the dairy problems. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Larry L" wrote in message ... I've been daydreamin' and mentioning same to my wonderful bride to the point that she has picked up on my urge and 'more or less' authorized a trip to Patagonia ( will have to be next season ... about a year from now ). I'm a bumpkin and don't really know how all you world traveler types organize and manage the various essentials of such trips. I ain't been on a airplane in close to twenty years, for instance. So, when you guys go to Alaska or Pango Pango or etc ... do you take all your camping equipment with you, or buy most stuff when you get there ( I'm thinking so far of about a month to six weeks of DIY fishing, mainly camping but with enough hotel time to not go nuts, or start attracting condors FWIW, I've researched the DIY thing enough to feel confident that it's fully possible ... I will probably pay for access to a place or two, but not guides and lodges ) Larry L ( who is still at the daydream stage but feels good about his chances of pullin' this one off ) ( and who thinks this place needs a boost that isn't from caffeine ;-) (Sorry about that null post.) The only advice I can give you , Larry, which I'm pretty sure you won't follow, is don't go alone. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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![]() "rw" wrote The only advice I can give you , Larry, which I'm pretty sure you won't follow, is don't go alone. -- Do you speak Spanish? What month do you want to go? G I admit that a 'buddy' or two would make sense, decrease some costs via sharing, and increase the sense of security. But I don't know anybody that fishes, let alone somebody that would want to do I trip like I imagine. I find it hard to believe that a personals ad on the web would yield results less dangerous than 'alone' G Let's see ... "Old man, known on ROFF, that wants to fish in Patagonia seeks same to share vehicle expenses." Nope, doesn't inspire faith and confidence in the outcome ( I HAVE shared a lodge rental with a stranger for 3 days via a roff ( or some web thing) post many years ago ... I still have nightmares ;-) MY main worry about 'alone' is that I'm very nearly deaf and don't speak Spanish .. a "must communicate" situation could be tough. Actually one reason I want to do this is because it scares me. "Old" is proving to bring lots of undesirable things with it ( a specialist told this morning to "live with" my knee and ankle, they can't do anything more ) , weak knees, weak eyes, weak memory, weak ... oh **** the list gets too long. But, THE single thing it has brought, so far, that I dislike most is increased timidity and desire for the always false "sense of security" I find myself avoiding things, and places because they may be a bit 'scary' and I hate that in myself ... only way to fight it is to go regardless. What the ****, if I get trapped under a monster trout that flops on me as I try to release him G and slowly die in the wilderness of Patagonia it won't be a tragic case of dying young or dying on the assembly line trying to make 40 years for the extra retirement benefits. |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:27:04 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote: I will probably pay for access to a place or two, but not guides and lodges ) I don't know of any outfitters in Chile/Argintina. I'm sure there are some. That would be my first stop. If you had to bring all your camping gear on the plane, you'd pay a small fortune in overweight charges. I believe there are places in both countries where you can pay to fish. I googled all this a year or so ago. I'm heading down to Chile in another six weeks or so to a lodge run by a friend from Maine. I'll ask him about any do-it-yourself adventures. Dave |
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Don't mean to pull an MC here, but forgot something:
You will need a passport, of course, but not a visa. Be prepared to pay $100 U.S. when you enter the country. The nearest fair size town to Patagonia is Coyhaique right at the foot of the Andes, and near lots of rivers. You should be able rent a car/truck there, and there are hotels available. You will probably fly into Balmaceda which is serviced by jets out of Santiago de Chile. Good luck in you plans. Dave |
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![]() "Dave LaCourse" wrote Good luck in you plans. Got the passport already .... Coyhaique is one place on my list already, too. Not much of Chile is technically in 'Patagonia' as I understand it .... i.e. Patagonia is the steppes beween the Andes and the ATLANTIC .... only a small section of the Andes jog west enough to have such an area in Chile ( or the border jogs east? ) ... I mention this only because I found it very interesting when I read it, I had used Andes and Patagonia interchangably and ah, incorrectly ... Patagonia derives from the name of the peoples that lived on those steppes |
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