OT music smells

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 00:04:14 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


"Sal Monella" wrote

. But almost all that jazz has been re-issued
as CDs anyway. So I've been concentrating on out of print and
semi-impossible to get vinyl R&B, of which I have a zillion,
like...........to many to name. Actually I guess a lot of that
has been re-issued too, but it's maddening to buy now, because each
CD has one or two good cuts at most, and then lots of useless
crap.


Remember, I'm cheap. Add the fact :-( that I've lost so much
hearing to shotguns and dog whistles I'm 'legally deaf' in California and
I'll take the time to digitize and live with the clicks, heck, can't hear
'high fidelity' anyway. So far I've done well over 100 albums and have at
least twice that left ... hoping to have it all on an iPod for my
Montahoming trip in mid-May.

I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.

TC,
R




I saw Ray Charles live at Dillon Gym in Princeton NJ in 1962,
when I was 13.



I went to HS in Hayward, Ca and for several years before I could drive I
used to
ride the bus to SF and hang out at City Lights Book Store on Saturday, then
go to the Blackhawk that night, taking the late Greyhound back home. It
was a jazz club that had a cage like area where under drinking age kids
could sit. I saw a lot of big name jazz musicians there, over those
early teen years.

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I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.

TC,
R


Thanks, but I'd be willing to pay, in some cases .... However, I'm on the
world's slowest dial-up ... the single side Fred and I talked about in this
thread would take a minimum of 4 hours for me !!!

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:24:51 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


wrote \



I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.

TC,
R


Thanks, but I'd be willing to pay, in some cases .... However, I'm on the
world's slowest dial-up ... the single side Fred and I talked about in this
thread would take a minimum of 4 hours for me !!!

Just a suggestion - if he's willing to do it, upload load it to one of
the "Rapidshare"-type sites and you can DL it at night, or, have a
friend with high-speed DL it and burn to CD.

HTH,
R

wrote


Just a suggestion - if he's willing to do it, upload load it to one of
the "Rapidshare"-type sites and you can DL it at night, or, have a
friend with high-speed DL it and burn to CD.



Again, thanks ... you give me the idea of having 'the kid' get it for me ...
he has broadband where he lives near the Pacific campus ... and ... he owes
me G He shares a house with a very talented music major, bet they know
all the places to find this stuff already

On Jan 31, 9:19*pm, wrote:

I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.


It appears that such use of your CD/album collection is a copyright/
fair use murky area, and that the RIAA would like it to be illegal:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122800693.html

HTH,
B

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:19*pm, wrote:

I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.


It appears that such use of your CD/album collection is a copyright/
fair use murky area, and that the RIAA would like it to be illegal:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122800693.html

HTH,
B

And I'm sure Bill and Hil would like it to be illegal for anyone to vote
for anyone but them, but...

Seriously, though, one part of me would L-O-V-E to get such a letter
from RIAA and, of course, another part wouldn't want the hassle. I
guess I wouldn't ASK for one, but I'd have one hell of a good time with
it if I got one....FWIW, I don't "share" stuff in the Napster sense, but
I do have (some) electronic copies of "hard" copies (music and print) of
media that I have purchased and in Larry's case, if I had an electronic
copy, since he has a "hard" copy that he purchased, I'd send him a
personal-use electronic copy.

IAC, I think as long as there is not even a scintilla of evidence that
the person who made the electronic, personal-use copy either "shared" it
or didn't retain the "hard" copy, the RIAA is **** out of both luck and
sense in filing such a pleading.

TC,
R

On Feb 1, 10:54*am, wrote:

IAC, I think as long as there is not even a scintilla of evidence that
the person who made the electronic, personal-use copy either "shared" it
or didn't retain the "hard" copy, the RIAA is **** out of both luck and
sense in filing such a pleading.

And yet they persist in doing so. A very strange organization.

Happy weekend to you,
B

On Feb 1, 8:54 am, wrote:

I like rdean's attitude here. The RIAA guys are
greedy pricks and they're killing the music
industry.....not that it didn't need killing anyway.

The laws that exist (murky or not) are what they are
because they have more money and better lawyers than
consumers. But that doesn't make those laws what they should be.

If I buy digital music I should be able to copy it at will.
Reselling it is another story.

"while-one" wrote in message
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On Feb 1, 8:54 am, wrote:

I like rdean's attitude here.

Ineffably sad.

The RIAA guys are greedy pricks

Which makes them a lot like pretty much everybody in every business. Yawn.

and they're killing the music industry....

Yeah, boy, another week or two and there'll be no more music.....or books.
You'd best get busy publishing an epitaph while there's still a place to do
so.

not that it didn't need killing anyway.

Well then, what are you whining about?

The laws that exist (murky or not) are what they are
because they have more money and better lawyers than
consumers.

Which startling revelation some of us were jsut about THIS close to
ferreting out on our own! Another generation or two and we'd have had
it.....I'm certain of it.

But that doesn't make those laws what they should be.

O.k., that part we would never have gotten without help.

If I buy digital music I should be able to copy it at will.

Why?

Reselling it is another story.

Yeah. There are lots of other stories.

Wolfgang

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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 07:35:10 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 31, 9:19 pm, wrote:

I'm not offering definitive legal advice, but if I understand it
correctly, it's not illegal to download music (for personal use) if you
already own a "hard copy" and retain the hard copy.


It appears that such use of your CD/album collection is a copyright/
fair use murky area, and that the RIAA would like it to be illegal:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...122800693.html

HTH,
B

And I'm sure Bill and Hil would like it to be illegal for anyone to vote
for anyone but them, but...

KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!
KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!
KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!

Seriously, though, one part of me would L-O-V-E to get such a letter
from RIAA and, of course, another part wouldn't want the hassle. I
guess I wouldn't ASK for one, but I'd have one hell of a good time with
it if I got one....FWIW, I don't "share" stuff in the Napster sense, but
I do have (some) electronic copies of "hard" copies (music and print) of
media that I have purchased and in Larry's case, if I had an electronic
copy, since he has a "hard" copy that he purchased, I'd send him a
personal-use electronic copy.

Ooh! You make us wet!

IAC, I think as long as there is not even a scintilla of evidence that
the person who made the electronic, personal-use copy either "shared" it
or didn't retain the "hard" copy, the RIAA is **** out of both luck and
sense in filing such a pleading.

How fortunate for us that you have rendered the courts and the rest of the
American legal apparatus obsolete and null. Now we can all go out and do as
we please without fear of pesky legal repercussions.

Wolfgang
oprah oprah emeril absinthe absinthe emeril.