So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

Jim Edmondson wrote:


mccain has now been fully revealed...he's a
chameleon...and old! g

jeff


Jeff, do you ever hire/train any young people on the job? They are very
personable, socially aware, "different", they love change, but they
can't do jack **** without someone holding their hand for awhile - who's
gonna be holding Obama's hand?


not persuasive or applicable, imo. He's been "on the job".... Jeezus, I
always chuckle about the "experience" argument, especially when made by
republicans who exalt the election of ronnie reagan.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:18:59 -0500, Jeff wrote:

Jeezus, I
always chuckle about the "experience" argument, especially when made by
republicans who exalt the election of ronnie reagan.

Uh, Jeff..... Reagan was a successful governor of our largest (most
populated) state for eight years. He was re-elected by a land-slide.

Obama has done nothing in the Senate. He started running for POTUS
upon his election and has done nothing except write a book. He is
neither tested nor with any kind of leadership skills. But the
number one thing wrong with him is Teddy Kennedy's endorsement. THAT
is enough to turn me sour.

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:18:59 -0500, Jeff wrote:


Jeezus, I
always chuckle about the "experience" argument, especially when made by
republicans who exalt the election of ronnie reagan.


Uh, Jeff..... Reagan was a successful governor of our largest (most
populated) state for eight years. He was re-elected by a land-slide.

Obama has done nothing in the Senate. He started running for POTUS
upon his election and has done nothing except write a book. He is
neither tested nor with any kind of leadership skills. But the
number one thing wrong with him is Teddy Kennedy's endorsement. THAT
is enough to turn me sour.

Dave

ok dave...8 years as gub of califoricatya. and his experience before
attaining that exalted proving ground? and that prepared him to be
president how? and reagan's gubernatorial time is better, superior,
more compelling than obama's state legislative experience, education,
senate experience how?

give me a break...reagan was non compos mentis for 2 or more years as
prez and you guys loved him for it.

jeff

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:19:20 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

give me a break...reagan was non compos mentis for 2 or more years as
prez and you guys loved him for it.

The entire *nation* loved the guy. He ended the Cold War, tore down
the Berlin Wall, started the longest run in the Bull Market on WS,
etc. There will probably never be a more successful or loved
president.

Dave

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:19:20 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

give me a break...reagan was non compos mentis for 2 or more years as
prez and you guys loved him for it.

The entire *nation* loved the guy. He ended the Cold War, tore down
the Berlin Wall, started the longest run in the Bull Market on WS,
etc. There will probably never be a more successful or loved
president.

Nothing to add to this. It's just so beautiful that it needed to be
reposted.

Wolfgang
so, what's wrong with murrica?

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:19:20 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:18:59 -0500, Jeff wrote:


Jeezus, I
always chuckle about the "experience" argument, especially when made by
republicans who exalt the election of ronnie reagan.


Uh, Jeff..... Reagan was a successful governor of our largest (most
populated) state for eight years. He was re-elected by a land-slide.

Obama has done nothing in the Senate. He started running for POTUS
upon his election and has done nothing except write a book. He is
neither tested nor with any kind of leadership skills. But the
number one thing wrong with him is Teddy Kennedy's endorsement. THAT
is enough to turn me sour.

Dave

ok dave...8 years as gub of califoricatya. and his experience before
attaining that exalted proving ground? and that prepared him to be
president how? and reagan's gubernatorial time is better, superior,
more compelling than obama's state legislative experience, education,
senate experience how?

FWIW, gubernatorial experience is at least arguably more practical than
congressional because it is executive rather than legislative or
judicial. Moreover, given the system as it is in the US, a legislator
is has no (direct) duty to those not his (direct) constituents, and
arguably has a duty to put those citizens he/she represents "in front"
of those of colleagues or in other "non-constituent" categories, whereas
the POTUS' (direct) constituents, at least in theory, are all citizens
and he has a more direct duty to visitors and guests of or to the US,
protectorates, etc.

TC,
R
give me a break...reagan was non compos mentis for 2 or more years as
prez and you guys loved him for it.

jeff

Dave

ok dave...8 years as gub of califoricatya. and his experience before
attaining that exalted proving ground? and that prepared him to be
president how? and reagan's gubernatorial time is better, superior,
more compelling than obama's state legislative experience, education,
senate experience how?


FWIW, gubernatorial experience is at least arguably more practical than
congressional because it is executive rather than legislative or
judicial. Moreover, given the system as it is in the US, a legislator
is has no (direct) duty to those not his (direct) constituents, and
arguably has a duty to put those citizens he/she represents "in front"
of those of colleagues or in other "non-constituent" categories, whereas
the POTUS' (direct) constituents, at least in theory, are all citizens
and he has a more direct duty to visitors and guests of or to the US,
protectorates, etc.

TC,
R


arguably?? is that it?

Jeff, look at the following link:

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

Notice Obama's staffers in Texas celebrating Super Tuesday results.

Is that a poster of Che Guevara on the wall. What's with that?
First Teddy Kennedy and now Che Guevara?

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Jeff, look at the following link:

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

Notice Obama's staffers in Texas celebrating Super Tuesday results.

Is that a poster of Che Guevara on the wall. What's with that?
First Teddy Kennedy and now Che Guevara?

Dave



i tried to open that fox site, but my computer barfed and i can't get it
loaded.

yikes...maybe it's a revolution. we're all gonna be murdered in our sleep!

"myfoxhouston"? what's with that? you're not one of those who think
obama is a muslim too, are you? i know mccain supporters who are
blatantly and unapologetically racist...does that identify your guy?

waterboarders unite...you've important work to do...now che is
terrorizing us too. g

c'mon dave...

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:32:29 -0500, jeff miller
wrote:

Dave

ok dave...8 years as gub of califoricatya. and his experience before
attaining that exalted proving ground? and that prepared him to be
president how? and reagan's gubernatorial time is better, superior,
more compelling than obama's state legislative experience, education,
senate experience how?


FWIW, gubernatorial experience is at least arguably more practical than
congressional because it is executive rather than legislative or
judicial. Moreover, given the system as it is in the US, a legislator
is has no (direct) duty to those not his (direct) constituents, and
arguably has a duty to put those citizens he/she represents "in front"
of those of colleagues or in other "non-constituent" categories, whereas
the POTUS' (direct) constituents, at least in theory, are all citizens
and he has a more direct duty to visitors and guests of or to the US,
protectorates, etc.

TC,
R


arguably?? is that it?

Probably...at least arguably so...

IAC, the Che thing is a "yesterday's news" kinda non-issue last I heard.
Some vols (not at the Houston HQ) were stupid enough to a) have the
Cuban flag with the Che image on it in the office (on a wall above and
behind a desk), and b) allow a cameraperson to shoot a shot of someone
sitting at the desk. I'm pretty sure no one really thinks Obama
directly "ordered" it.

TC,
R