Hook removal

Jeff - saw ad for nice lodge on madison that offers small cabins with a
small bed and queen size for $80 per night, with a front porch facing the
river, inside plumbing and a sink that drains. Might be as nice as that
tauge me hall you selected for the last western clave!
If the guy from New Zealand comes over you could offer to share the big bed
with him. He tells really big fish stories and could sing some of his songs
for us while sitting out on the porch in evenings. Perhaps you and Warren
could take him bowling

I said I wasn"t going west again but recieved my trip package of flies from
Troutflies too late to use on Rock Creek so will probably send a couple
of thousand dollars traveling out to the Madison so I won"t waste $12
dollars worth of flies.
Joe

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:42:28 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

I said I wasn"t going west again but recieved my trip package of flies from
Troutflies too late to use on Rock Creek so will probably send a couple
of thousand dollars traveling out to the Madison so I won"t waste $12
dollars worth of flies.
Joe

Bring your camping gear, IJ, and we can go fish Rock Crick the week
after the clave.
--
Charlie...

Jeff - saw ad for nice lodge on madison that offers small cabins with a
small bed and queen size for $80 per night, with a front porch facing the
river, inside plumbing and a sink that drains. Might be as nice as that
tauge me hall you selected for the last western clave!
If the guy from New Zealand comes over you could offer to share the big bed
with him. He tells really big fish stories and could sing some of his songs
for us while sitting out on the porch in evenings. Perhaps you and Warren
could take him bowling

I said I wasn"t going west again but recieved my trip package of flies from
Troutflies too late to use on Rock Creek so will probably send a couple
of thousand dollars traveling out to the Madison so I won"t waste $12
dollars worth of flies.

I'm glad to see you have your priorities straight Joe! It
would be a gawd damn shame to waste those fine Harry Mason
flies! Looks like I won't be in crisis mode next summer, so we
can take a boat ride down the river again....

"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:42:28 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

I said I wasn"t going west again but recieved my trip package of flies
from
Troutflies too late to use on Rock Creek so will probably send a
couple
of thousand dollars traveling out to the Madison so I won"t waste $12
dollars worth of flies.
Joe

Bring your camping gear, IJ, and we can go fish Rock Crick the week
after the clave.
--
Charlie...

IJ replies---sounds good--if my legs hold out I know just where a big brown
is stalking under the bank by an old car leaning beside the creek---hope I
can talk bruiser out of more than one of those big foam flies with a
paracute on top--thought last year we were going to have to take turns using
one fly.
Is your wife going t join you in the James Bond machine?? Have you named it
yet?

What was name and e-mail fo that guy we from Flordia we fished with at
Morgenton? Probably accompaying my wife to South Georgia in Feb for a
tennis tournment [ her team won all four matches in state tournment in
Pinehurst last weekend] Imight just keep going and take him up on his
fishing vacation offer. Hell he might not even be reading roff after driving
all the way from Fla to N.C. clave and only getting to fish with only the
two of us. [In the rain]

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:40:57 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

Is your wife going t join you in the James Bond machine?? Have you named it
yet?

The plan as of now is to spend the 2 weeks prior to the clave
touristing/hiking with my wife around Yellowstone and then she'll fly
back and I'll spend the next few weeks fishing out there.

What was name and e-mail fo that guy we from Flordia we fished with at
Morgenton?

Dave Cassens. He said he stopped by the delayed harvest water on the
way back and caught some nice fish.
--
Charlie...

"bouncer" wrote in message
t...


Looks like I won't be in crisis mode next summer, so we
can take a boat ride down the river again....

That wouldn't be one of them Missura boat rides would it?

Op --dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy!--

you choose the accommodations this time... but, you also get the tiny
upstairs room this time. let me know the details... and don't forget
your yellowstone pass.

jeff

Joe McIntosh wrote:

Jeff - saw ad for nice lodge on madison that offers small cabins with a
small bed and queen size for $80 per night, with a front porch facing the
river, inside plumbing and a sink that drains. Might be as nice as that
tauge me hall you selected for the last western clave!
If the guy from New Zealand comes over you could offer to share the big bed
with him. He tells really big fish stories and could sing some of his songs
for us while sitting out on the porch in evenings. Perhaps you and Warren
could take him bowling

I said I wasn"t going west again but recieved my trip package of flies from
Troutflies too late to use on Rock Creek so will probably send a couple
of thousand dollars traveling out to the Madison so I won"t waste $12
dollars worth of flies.
Joe

Good Morning all,

As a paramedic Down Under, we used to have bets on how many hooks we'd get
out of people in the first week after Barramundi Season Opening
..........quite a few.

The technique certainly works well, no doubt about it. HOWEVER, there's also
risks associated with it like lacerating tendon sheaths, neuovascular
bundles and other essentials. Immagine having a forearm (casting arm) that
doesn't have any control or sensation after taking the shortcut and severing
the ulna nerve? Of course, if you can ascertain that the hook's in a fairly
fatty area without underlying structures being at risk and there's no
Doctors surgery available........... then there's the Tetanus etc.

But then, i think about how many i've pulled out of myself..........can't
stop fishing just because of 1 hook.

Cheers,
"Harry"
"@(Peter A. Collin)rochester.rr.com" ""pcollin\"@(Peter A.
Collin)rochester.rr.com" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Just got back from a steelhead oddesey to Pennsylvania. Great fishing,
good weather and a great time. However, during prime time last evening,
I landed a fish with a treble hook busted off in its jaw. I yelled over
to my buddy, while prying at the treble, "Boy, I did this fish a favor
by catching it....OWWWWW!"

The fish flopped and drove that treble right into my left index
fingertip. as far as it could go. This was an old school hook, with
thick wire and huge"catch and relese is for pussies" barbs.

I poked at it for a while streamside, then head back to the parking lot.
Felt bad that my buddy had to quit fishing during the witching hour
for this. I thought i would go to town for razor blades to try and cut
the hook out. If that didn't work, to the doctor I would have to go.

This very nice gentleman in the parking lot saw my predicament and
invited me over to his office, which was walking distance from the car.
He gave me an exacto blade to try to cut the hook out. I diddled
around and it didn't work. Finally he said "Well, I know what will
work, but you have to trust me." He took a stout cord and looped it
around the bend of the hook. He had me hold the eye of the hook so that
it was held in the exact postition as it was when it enetered my finger.
He would give the string a quick, hard jerk in the opposite direction.
Now, I have seen this trick in books, but never saw it used. I wasn't
too thrilled about it and was sweating profusely while bracing for the
tug. My heart was pounding the way it does when the dentist comes at
you with the yard long hypodermic.

He yanked, and the think came out like a loose tooth. Nothing to it! I
thanked the man over and over, said I felt like a fool getting so
nervous about the procedure. The man was gracious and offered bandages
and antiseptic creme. Just another random act of kindness.

So I offer the technique here for all roffians. It could come in very
handy, and possibly save a trip. Anybody who fishes for long enough is
bound to have a similar thing happen to him.

Pete Collin

"Martin" wrote in message
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But then, i think about how many i've pulled out of myself..........can't
stop fishing just because of 1 hook.


By now, I think I'd be debarbing, if I were you. :-)

My worst self-hook was when I was a kid. Caught a bass with my last rusty
hook and worm, and he had swallowed it all the way down. I couldn't reach
deep enough into his mouth to loosen the hook, so I grabbed on tight (read:
thumb inside his mouth as deep as I could get it) and YANKED the line. The
hook slid right up my fingernail and imbedded itself top dead center right
at the cuticle, all the way to the bend, with the tip buried somewhere in my
knuckle. It was deep deep deep, and my eyes almost blew out of my head when
I saw it.

Tried to work it in deeper and debarb it, but it was buried to the bend and
there was no pushing it farther. I couldn't even straighten my thumb cuz it
was into the knuckle. I tried to slit my thumb open and remove it that way,
but it would have involved opening myself to the bone, and I was too
chicken. I was WAY deep in the boonies, and had no idea what I was gonna do:
surgery seemed out of the question cuz I was a poor boy with only a few
dollars, although my priorities sure are different nowadays.

Finally, some neighbor came over and said "OK, here we go", and hooked my
knife blade right at the bend of the hook, and said "Count to three." I went
"One, Two.." and he yanked as hard as he could.

Instead of coming out, the hook snapped off right at the bend! Fortunately,
I could then use the knife tip to press the pointy end through my joint and
remove it at the knuckle. In retrospect, if it hadn't broken, he almost
certainly would have ripped out nerves and/or tendons.

It didn't hurt until the next day, when the infection started. I cannot
remember what ever happened to the fish.

--riverman

Peter,
Where can you get one of those boga grips? I need something but
haven't found anything I like.
Skeeter
"@(Peter A. Collin)rochester.rr.com" ""pcollin\"@(Peter A. Collin)rochester.rr.com" wrote in message . ..


Ouch. Sorry to hear about it, Peter.

FWIW, I've always been concerned about my lack of control of the big guys
when landing/removing the hook. My brother just gave me his boga grips,
and I'll give em a try this winter. I think I'll be able to bring the fish
in hotter, I won't ever need to beach them, and I'll have more control over
the fish.

Now, I just have to file off that weight scale so I can keep making up the
weights as I go along.

Scott


Ah! There is always some product you can buy that will make life
easier! I think I am reaching for the hook with foreceps only from now
on. Should have done that all along - thier teeth have slashed up my
hands many times. Anyway, I hope you get a brownie this fall that
bottoms out your scale, Scott!