So, OK, he's for change, he gives Chris Mathews a feeling "up his leg," and...

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Scott Seidman" wrote:
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Many recovering alcoholics are not normal happy
people. Many are, but many aren't.
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Scott,
Try substituting any of the following words for "recovering alcoholics" in
your above statement and please explain to me how the changed statement is
any less valid than your original:
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Bob,

Try not snipping away all the context from Scott's post and
then please explain to me how your commentary isn't silly.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
et...

Try not snipping away all the context from Scott's post and
then please explain to me how your commentary isn't silly.

--
Ken Fortenberry

My commentary is not silly because when he uses inane statements like " Many
recovering alcoholics are not normal happy
people. Many are, but many aren't." to bolster his arguement, he is
either:


1. Not thinking about what he is actually writing.
or
2. Using what, to the casual reader, might at first glance appear to be a
meaningful profound statement to set the stage for, and will be reason
enough for, many to uncritically accept all the analysis that follows.

Scott is no dummy and usually chooses his words carefully, so draw your own
conclusions.

Bob Weinberger

"Bob Weinberger" wrote in
news:uf%tj.4089$FK2.14@trndny08:

Scott is no dummy and usually chooses his words carefully, so draw
your own conclusions.

Bob Weinberger


Yes, my words were chosen in a poor effort not to discourage recovering
alcoholics. Whatever it takes not to drink yourself into a state of misery
is what they need to do.

To back off of my wishy washy disclaimer, IMO, the presidency is not an
office for either a well-adjusted or a poorly-adjusted person in recovery.

To drift even more off topic, I think its a pity that Ethics committees
have more of a problem with a closeted gay guy in a restroom committing a
misdemeanor than a drunken drugged up Kennedy offspring driving down the
street.


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Scott
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
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To drift even more off topic, I think its a pity that Ethics committees
have more of a problem with a closeted gay guy in a restroom committing a
misdemeanor than a drunken drugged up Kennedy offspring driving down the
street.


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Scott
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Scott,
Ethics committees did not go after Craig because he was a "closeted gay guy
in a restroom committing a misdemeanor ", or after Clinton because he got a
blow job in the oval office, or after Packwood because he gropped women;
they went after them because in each case they lied under oath (either in a
court proceeding and/or to Congress) about what had happened. The fact that
this is not a meaningless distinction is lost on too many people.

Bob Weinberger

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Try not snipping away all the context from Scott's post and
then please explain to me how your commentary isn't silly.

My commentary is not silly because when he uses inane statements like " Many
recovering alcoholics are not normal happy
people. Many are, but many aren't." to bolster his arguement, he is
either:


1. Not thinking about what he is actually writing.
or
2. Using what, to the casual reader, might at first glance appear to be a
meaningful profound statement to set the stage for, and will be reason
enough for, many to uncritically accept all the analysis that follows.

Scott is no dummy and usually chooses his words carefully, so draw your own
conclusions.

Scott's argument as I read it was that mental health professionals
have identified several personality and behavioral attributes which
many recovering alcoholics have in common. So let's look at the
behaviors and personality of a specific recovering alcoholic over
the last seven years and notice the similarities.

Now out of all that you picked one sentence, presented it totally
out of context and then jumped on it with both feet. My conclusion,
as I've already implied, is that your commentary is silly.

--
Ken Fortenberry