Help with nymph fishing

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 23:35:53 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 23:06:57 GMT, (George
Cleveland) wrote:

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:54:48 -0500, "Frank Reid"
moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf
wrote:

Well every thing was fine back in Merry Old England until Skues came
along,
then it all went to hell.
Ernie

Heard he was a bit of a ******* too. He married a lady of minor means,
went
through her dough, chucked her out and got a divorce, leaving her a poor
ex-skues of a woman.
--
Frank Reid
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The cod!

g.c.


Actually, I heard she got halford everything he owned.

g.c.

this pun thing mussed top.

yfitons
wayno


I'm sorry. I didn't mean to Test your patience. I must be Ichen for attention.

g.c.

Who, after all scored, 71003 on the ****oir test! 71003!!! Where's my
validation!!! Where's the raisinification of my self esteemification!!!!


!

On 06 Nov 2003 23:53:09 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

my daddy wayno writes:

shee-it. i got a 99 cherokee that i will put on a dirt road against any
freaking yankee vehicle, 'specially driven by worn out ol' barnacles from
masskachoosuts.

yo daddy
wayno

The RS-6 ain't gonna see any racing on a dirt road - wheels and tires too
expensive. However, any time ya wanna go on pavement, you let me know. d;o)
Now, if I go to Penns, I'd bring the Land Cruiser, and that wheezer APOS driven
by an old wheezer like you will be no match for the "Farm Implement." This
time, *I* go first and throw stones at you. If you are within 200 feet when we
stop at the end, you win. However, I expect the speeds to be such that your
vehicle will again fail like it did last year. APOS (Look for the union
label.......)

d;o)

BTW, who you bunking with? Is there room for me?

What happened to the Land Yacht?
If you drove that down there, wayno would be asking you those questions ;-)

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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John writes:

Why would it not work? Fly suspended on mono under a bobber. Whether
it's a plastic bubble or them fist-sized hunks o' yarn ya'll call
indicators on the Rapid--what's the difference?

Because it's not fly fishing. Fly fishing in the regs of most states I've
fished (where it says "Fly fishing only") required a fly rod/reel. Now if
that
Californicator wants to put a fly reel on that spinning rod and use the
*line*
to cast it, then *that* would be termed fly fishing. I didn't make the
rules,
John.
Dave

Not much surprised to learn that you didn't make the rules.......if you had,
one would expect that you'd know them.......which states require the use of
a fly reel in fly fishing only waters?

Wolfgang

Charlie Choc wrote:

On 06 Nov 2003 23:15:59 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:


Have you ever seen a
spinner there? They can't use leaded split shot, so I would imagine they'd
have to use that bubble thingy.


You can use nonlead shot.




I don't remember seeing anyone else fishing at all when we were in
that section. My guess would be the bubble too. With a bubble you
would still need to get the depth right and get a good drift, though,
so I don't think spinning gear would have any advantage - probably
isn't easy to mend line with mono either. g

A mend isn't needed nearly as much with light mono. The larger diameter
of flylines and leader butts cause MUCH more drag than light mono.

Probably the most effective nymph fishermen I ever met used a weird
spin casting reel with light mono on a flyrod. (I recently wrote about
the guy here) Sometimes he used "flyrod" indicators (not bubbles),
sometimes not - depending on water conditions. Since the thin mono he
used caused little or no drag, he could get incredibly long, dragfree
drifts. Since the thin mono allowed the fly to sink more readily and
the mono produced much less drag both under the water and on the
surface, he could effectively fish spots that were "impossible" with
conventional fly gear. He caught some VERY good fish from some heavily
fished waters. I learned alot from the guy. I played around with his
"system" enough to see how effective it was but it wasn't my cup of tea.

I learned alot from the guy, some of what I learned was applicable to
"conventional" fly fishing, some not. One of the things I did take from
his method was the use of a long tippet when nymphing. I frequently use
a leader that is 80 to 90% tippet. IMO, the thin diameter tippet is much
better when nymphing than the heavy butt sections of a traditional
leader. It reduces drag, is more sensitive, provides better contact and
allows the fly to sink easier which lets you use less weight.

IMO, there are a few places and times where a flyline is better than
thin mono when nymphing but there are many where mono is MUCH better.

Willi

g.c.
the ****oir test!
validation!!!
raisinification

Hmmm, I must be the liberal media. Ain't taken things outta context great?
Next stop, Rayguns...

--
Frank Reid
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Wolfgang writes:

Not much surprised to learn that you didn't make the rules.......if you had,
one would expect that you'd know them.......which states require the use of
a fly reel in fly fishing only waters?

Maine regs:
4. FLY FISHING means casting upon water and retrieving in a manner in which the
weight of the fly line propels the fly. No more than 3 unbaited artificial
flies individually attached to a line may be used. (NOTE: It is unlawful to
troll a fly in waters restricted to fly fishing only).

Although it does not say anything about a *fly* rod, or a *fly* reel, I'd love
to see someone cast with a spinning rod/casting rod/etc, with fly line on the
reel. Remember, the fly line must propel the fly.

DT writes:

What happened to the Land Yacht?
If you drove that down there, wayno would be asking you those questions ;-)

G Still have it. Jo and I are going to San Diego in March with it. I
wouldn't drive it to Penns because it provides wonderful accomodations, but
leaves me without local wheels. And, no, I ain't towing anything. Guess I
could rent something.....
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

Will writes:

You can use nonlead shot.

Correct, but like Charlie says, I'd love to see a spinner mend his line.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Wolfgang writes:

Not much surprised to learn that you didn't make the rules.......if you
had,
one would expect that you'd know them.......which states require the use
of
a fly reel in fly fishing only waters?

Maine regs:
4. FLY FISHING means casting upon water and retrieving in a manner in
which the
weight of the fly line propels the fly. No more than 3 unbaited artificial
flies individually attached to a line may be used. (NOTE: It is unlawful
to
troll a fly in waters restricted to fly fishing only).

Although it does not say anything about a *fly* rod, or a *fly* reel, I'd
love
to see someone cast with a spinning rod/casting rod/etc, with fly line on
the
reel. Remember, the fly line must propel the fly.

So, in other words, you don't know of any rule anywhere that states you must
use a fly rod/reel.......it is in fact not the case that, "Fly fishing in
the regs of most states I've fished (where it says "Fly fishing only")
required a fly rod/reel.".....you just made that **** up, right?

Wolfgang
who does most of his casting with that portion of the line OFF the reel.

ever the daredevil, wayno writes:
shee-it. i got a 99 cherokee that i will put on a dirt road against any
freaking yankee vehicle, 'specially driven by worn out ol' barnacles from
masskachoosuts.

looks like this one will have to be settled on Woodward Gap Road, say about May
20,2004. I will provide impartial judging and strong drink. Will also drive
myself to and from in the Fabulous Fishing Car, which will also be used to
carry debris from this no doubt ugly spectacle. Might I suggest we also fish a
bit?
Tom