Help with nymph fishing

On 07 Nov 2003 01:37:22 GMT, (Tom Littleton) wrote:

ever the daredevil, wayno writes:
shee-it. i got a 99 cherokee that i will put on a dirt road against any
freaking yankee vehicle, 'specially driven by worn out ol' barnacles from
masskachoosuts.

looks like this one will have to be settled on Woodward Gap Road, say about May
20,2004. I will provide impartial judging and strong drink. Will also drive
myself to and from in the Fabulous Fishing Car, which will also be used to
carry debris from this no doubt ugly spectacle. Might I suggest we also fish a
bit?
Tom

and I'll do the photography since our intrepid barrister will have his
hands full.

Peter

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Wolfgang writes:

So, in other words, you don't know of any rule anywhere that states you must
use a fly rod/reel.......it is in fact not the case that, "Fly fishing in
the regs of most states I've fished (where it says "Fly fishing only")
required a fly rod/reel.".....you just made that **** up, right?

Wolfgang
who does most of his casting with that portion of the line OFF the reel.


Gee, wolfie, ya got me again.

The ****in' net nanny strikes again.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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Wolfgang writes:

So, in other words, you don't know of any rule anywhere that states you
must
use a fly rod/reel.......it is in fact not the case that, "Fly fishing in
the regs of most states I've fished (where it says "Fly fishing only")
required a fly rod/reel.".....you just made that **** up, right?

Wolfgang
who does most of his casting with that portion of the line OFF the reel.


Gee, wolfie, ya got me again.

It ain't so tough when you're dealing with someone who has explicitly
confessed his character in a public forum.

The ****in' net nanny strikes again.

Being a civilian really sucks, don't it? ANYBODY can disagree with you and
you can't even have him flogged.

Wolfgang
and **** YOUR peace.

On 07 Nov 2003 00:53:02 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:



Although it does not say anything about a *fly* rod, or a *fly* reel, I'd love
to see someone cast with a spinning rod/casting rod/etc, with fly line on the
reel. Remember, the fly line must propel the fly.

Uh, er, well...

My first experiment with fly fishing was with a bait casting rod and
no reel. I cast it a bit better than I now cast a fly rod with fly
reel. It can be done. And can be fun to do. I could only get about
20 feet out of it and only within about 3 feet of where I was aiming,
but it was my first time trying fly fishing in any way, shape, or
form. And the line did do the propelling.

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Wolfie writes:

It ain't so tough when you're dealing with someone who has explicitly
confessed his character in a public forum.

The ****in' net nanny strikes again.

Being a civilian really sucks, don't it? ANYBODY can disagree with you and
you can't even have him flogged.

Wolfgang
and **** YOUR peace.

LOL. If ya really wanna know why I said reel, it's because a game warden
checked my license along with two other guys. It was 10 years or so ago when
adding weight to your line was not allowed. The two kids that were walking up
the road with me had split shot on their leaders. The warden said not to worry
- "as long as you have a fly rod and reel with fly line, I couldn't care less
about the split shot." I used that as a source. It happened again several
years later with a different warden.

So, go directly to **** You.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.

Being a civilian, btw, is great. I have no reason to flog you or anyone else.
I don't hate you, Wolfgang, nor do I hate Fortenberry. I just don't like the
way you talk and would rather not be around either of you. Wayno is right.

And you still smell and dress like a bum. d;o)

cyli writes:

My first experiment with fly fishing was with a bait casting rod and
no reel. I cast it a bit better than I now cast a fly rod with fly
reel. It can be done. And can be fun to do. I could only get about
20 feet out of it and only within about 3 feet of where I was aiming,
but it was my first time trying fly fishing in any way, shape, or
form. And the line did do the propelling.


Interesting. Was it a fly line? If not, I bet it was hard to mend. I saw
Lefty Kreh make about a 20 foot cast with a fly line using his arm as the rod.
Dave

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

Will writes:


You can use nonlead shot.


Correct, but like Charlie says, I'd love to see a spinner mend his line.
Dave


Did you even read the rest of my post?

Willi

Peter Charles wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:01:05 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


Sierra fisher wrote:

The best way to nymph fish is to go buy a spinning rod.

SPLORK

You tell 'em, SF. ;-)



Don't encourage him SF, he's bad enough as he is.

BTW, any you turkeys give up on the bobber yet? I've seen the light
and I've become a reformed nympher -- no more bobbers for this lad.

Come to think of it, **** on the nymphs as well -- wets all the way
(emergers actually).

Did you hear the nymph guys trying to explain to the newbie how to
cast lead and nymphs ? They recommended heaving, tossing and chucking.

Heaving and tossing and chucking is what you do at an all night kegger,
it is NOT fly fishing.

In my humble opinion. ;-)

And I'm glad you've seen the light. ;-) ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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LOL.

Hee, hee, hee.

If ya really wanna know why I said reel,

Well, actually, I didn't. Or, to be more precise, I already had a pretty
good idea of why you did that and, as my comment suggested, it had little to
do with the dissemination of factual information. See, that's the nice
thing about a democratic institution like usenet (notwithstanding the fact
that most find that democracy repugnant); you get to spew forth any sort of
**** or nonsense you please.....and then others are free to respond as they
see fit.

it's because a game warden
checked my license along with two other guys. It was 10 years or so ago
when
adding weight to your line was not allowed. The two kids that were
walking up
the road with me had split shot on their leaders. The warden said not to
worry
- "as long as you have a fly rod and reel with fly line, I couldn't care
less
about the split shot."

Yeah, that's a really heartwarming story. Leaving aside, for the moment,
the fact that the warden was an idiot (and assuming, of course, that the
story bears a familial resemblance to the truth) who would be well advised
to delve into the regulations concerning allowable equipment in whatever
godforsaken excuse for a state the alleged incident occurred in, it's still
a bull**** rationalization for deliberately stating as true in most of the
states you've fished what you had no reason to believe was true in any of
them, and what is, in fact, NOT true in any of them.

I used that as a source.

No, you are TRYING to use it as an escape route. Not many here will
acknowledge your failure......but they'll notice.

It happened again several
years later with a different warden.

Wardens. I've had a bit of experience with wardens. I once handed one of
them, here in Wisconsin, his first courtroom defeat. Not that any of this
redounds to my credit.....it was really a very simple matter. One of us
knew the regulations, and the other didn't. One of us tried to bull**** his
way through, and the other had no need to.

So, go directly to **** You.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.

I can hardly argue with any of that.

Being a civilian, btw, is great. I have no reason to flog you or anyone
else.

No one suggested that you have any reason......makes the overwhelming urge
all the more inexplicable and distressing, wouldn't you say?

I don't hate you, Wolfgang, nor do I hate Fortenberry.

I wasn't aware that it was an issue. Now that you've mentioned it though,
you have, in the few years I've frequented ROFF, frequently displayed a rage
that is the handmaiden of hatred. The truth.....and it's no secret.....is
that you are an avid, if not necessarily very effective, hater.

I just don't like the
way you talk and would rather not be around either of you.

No surprise there. In fact, I was aware of it for a couple of years before
you gave up the charade. And, for what it's worth, you have my blessing.

Wayno is right.

Frequently, in my experience. Now, in the unlikely event that he should
prove so ungracious as to fail to thank you for bringing him into this
little tete a tete, please allow me to do so for him......I am certain he
will thank me for it.

And you still smell and dress like a bum. d;o)

Sort of a wolf in wolf's clothing, one might say, hm? Well, I suspect I
wouldn't be much good at pretending to be a gentleman to the manor
born......so few are, really.

Wolfgang

On 07 Nov 2003 03:24:26 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

cyli writes:

My first experiment with fly fishing was with a bait casting rod and
no reel. I cast it a bit better than I now cast a fly rod with fly
reel. It can be done. And can be fun to do. I could only get about
20 feet out of it and only within about 3 feet of where I was aiming,
but it was my first time trying fly fishing in any way, shape, or
form. And the line did do the propelling.


Interesting. Was it a fly line? If not, I bet it was hard to mend. I saw
Lefty Kreh make about a 20 foot cast with a fly line using his arm as the rod.
Dave

Yes, it was a fly line. I had no idea at the time that one could cast
a fly on any other line. As for mending, I didn't try it much. I was
casting up and a little across to a rising fish, which I, naturally,
scared away in the process. Then I was casting just for fun and to
see what I could do with it. Shortly after that I got my first fly
rod. Oh, and it was a dry fly I was casting. Just the fly line, a
bit of mono, and the fly. I didn't know about tippets. An impulsive
day, that has had interesting results. When my bait chucker reel
(which I was using with a small lure) went into terminal mode, I'd
driven into the nearest town and bought a fly line and three flies and
started to play.

I have to amend the above. I knew the word tippet, because I'd been
reading here to learn about trout, but I was trying to learn to spin
fish at the time and hadn't paid much attention to the stuff about fly
fishing, except as it related to the behaviour of trout. I had no
idea what the word tippet meant. I wasn't spinning that afternoon
because of some idiot reason I can't recall. Shouldn't have been wind
or the fly casting fun wouldn't have worked for me.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

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