You gotta be kidding!

"Carl" wrote in message
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I have known some very good fishermen who eventually gave up fishing
the tiny flies that they used to love.
Carl

Good point Carl,
When I first started fly-fishing, I didn't know there were different
sub-categories to the sport. Some are in it just to tie flies, others enjoy
the art of casting, some just like to fish, and then there are those who
enjoy it all.
Of course many of us have seen all different personalities in the sport
of fly-fishing as well. And I'm sure we've all been victims of spending
$$$ to support our hobby, whether it's buying a bunch of Orvis or A-Z brand
equipment to look good or dropping +$100 on specialty fly-line, or traveling
to different states or countries to cast a line.
The point I'm making here is, we should all enjoy the sport of fly-fishing
anyway we like, and I'm all for sharing different ideas, trip reports,
techniques, fly-tying, recipes, except for ****ing wars and name
calling..."you gotta be kidding!" ;-)
-tom

"Tom Nakashima" wrote

Of course many of us have seen all different personalities in the sport
of fly-fishing as well. And I'm sure we've all been victims of spending
$$$ to support our hobby, whether it's buying a bunch of Orvis or A-Z
brand equipment to look good or dropping +$100 on specialty fly-line, or
traveling to different states or countries to cast a line.
The point I'm making here is, we should all enjoy the sport of fly-fishing
anyway we like,


Absolutely, And I believe each angler goes through many 'personalities' in
his journey through the sport AND most of us enjoy MOST of the different
aspects of the sport at different times. For instance, when I decide to
fish a soft hackle down stream on the swing in the Firehole it is mainly for
the relaxing rhythm of the cast, mend, mend, cast ... i.e. to enjoy casting
.... not for the fish catching. It catches a ton of fish, but it's that
relaxation that motivates choice of the technique at those times.

One of those intrinsic aspects often seen and heard, but seldom pointed out
directly as being part of the sport, is the friendly arguments over things
like "pattern vs presentation" or "rod as art vs rod=only a tool" and " when
does a fly stop being a fly and become a lure." These discussions are
to be found where ever anglers bump into each other and should not be
misinterpreted as, or allowed to become, real hostility. I've argued all
sides of all of them at one time or the other.

Now, as for casting ... it is very easy to see that IT is THE major
requirement and essential skill of the sport ... maybe I'll argue that side
next time G

"Larry L" wrote in message
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Now, as for casting ... it is very easy to see that IT is THE major
requirement and essential skill of the sport ... maybe I'll argue that
side next time G


For some yes, for others no, but I'm still not clear what there is to
argue? I've seen casting skills at all different levels, and different
styles too. It's up to the individual how far they want to take it and what
they wish to get out of it.

I have fly-fishing friends who are poorly skilled as fly-casters but yet
they catch fish. I also have friends who are greatly skilled in the art of
casting who have problems catching fish, and then many friends who fall
inbetween.
-tom

I have fly-fishing friends who are poorly skilled as fly-casters but yet
they catch fish. I also have friends who are greatly skilled in the art of
casting who have problems catching fish, and then many friends who fall
inbetween.

Fall in between casts or fish?
Frank Reid

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
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I have fly-fishing friends who are poorly skilled as fly-casters but yet
they catch fish. I also have friends who are greatly skilled in the art
of
casting who have problems catching fish, and then many friends who fall
inbetween.

Fall in between casts or fish?
Frank Reid


Ah, so you know Felicia? we sometimes call her Fish.
-tom

I have fly-fishing friends who are poorly skilled as fly-casters but yet
they catch fish. I also have friends who are greatly skilled in the art
of
casting who have problems catching fish, and then many friends who fall
inbetween.

Fall in between casts or fish?
Frank Reid

Ah, so you know Felicia? we sometimes call her Fish.

Whoa! High School flashback!
Frank Reid

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
I have fly-fishing friends who are poorly skilled as fly-casters but
yet
they catch fish. I also have friends who are greatly skilled in the
art
of
casting who have problems catching fish, and then many friends who
fall
inbetween.

Fall in between casts or fish?
Frank Reid

Ah, so you know Felicia? we sometimes call her Fish.

Whoa! High School flashback!
Frank Reid

Yup...behind the backstop.
-tom

"jeffc" wrote in message .

Orvis. -------------
They're fairly average in quality and price. But they are ubuiquitous,
and that alone deserves at least a little resistance :-)
Joe the Elder wants you to know he read that and is thinking about their
ubuiquitousness.

On Mar 9, 9:07 pm, "Larry L" wrote:

Well, 'central essence' may be a bad choice of wording ... my point is that
fly casting follows from trying to fish with tiny nearly weightless lures.

The original central problem was how to catch those extremely exciting to
watch, delicious looking g, fish eating mayflies and such,.... fly
casting was the solution.



In many places, at many times, people fly-fished because it was the
most effective ( and cheapest!) method of catching the fish. Under
many circumstances, and in many different places and conditions, it
still is.

There are many things which may assist one in catching fish, but the
only really necessary one is the desire to catch the fish. Everything
else follows from that. The greater the desire, and the more time
spent so engaged, the better one becomes, which is why many of the old
subsistence fishers were such experts. They needed the fish to live,
and failure was not an option.

That was indeed the main reason I started fly-fishing. I caught more
and better fish using flies, than I did using any other method. I no
longer need the fish, although I still enjoy catching them. The
experience and knowledge gained when my motivation was different is
still there though.

TL
MC