Female Hendrickson Comparadun

I tied up a half dozen female hendrickson comparaduns last night for use
(hopefully) on the upper delaware. I followed a pattern from a book on
the delaware system (I'm sure you know which one). Here's what I used:

Hook - Dry Fly size 14
Body - Hendrickson Pink Superfine
Tail - Three olive fibbets (split)
Wing - Comparadun Deer Hair
Thread - Olive

I'm taking a look at some patterns online this morning and don't see
anyone else using olive tails and thread. Was this wrong? What should
I use?

Thanks for the help.


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bigduhon;109368 Wrote:

Tail - Three olive fibbets (split)
I don't care for fibbets. They are a bit too stiff for my liking. If I
do tie with them, I cut them down really short. I've found that cutting
the the fibbets down substantially increases my hook ups.


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DC

If you find fibbits too stiff you may want to look into Whiting coq de
leon material. It is in my opinon softer then fib bits and looks cooler
in my opinon.

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As I understand it, and it makes a lot of sense, the thread should be
the same color and shade, or even a little lighter, than the body. The
reason being that when the dubbed fur gets wet, it gets darker. If you
use a dark thread the body will get even more darker. When you're done
tying the fly, you can take a permanent marker pen and touch the head
if you want a specific color.

Allan


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What about the tails? Is olive a poor choice?


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No need to bother splitting tails at all.

Just use a few strands of zlon in light brown or ginger as a trailing
shuck.

It makes a better fly and is easier to tie!!!!

I no longer use split tails on anything, even spinners. Trailing
shucks on everything.

If you need more floatation, the shuck material can be used to float
the fly to. Just apply some floatant to it.

Fish do not care and may even like the shuck better than the split
tails.

Jim


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Jim,

I got your point! I just think that the fly that you described is not a
comparadun.
Let me make my point in another way. The Comparadun is a style that
includes a wide-splayed tail of either microfibbets, hackle or perhaps
some hairs that are used to balance and assist with floatation, like
outriggers. The Sparkledun that you describe has a sparkle yarn, or
similar material, tail that gives the impression(-I guess-) of a shuck,
falling off the insect, to the trout.

This has nothing to do with fish catching, which is better, which is
easier to tie, etc. Also, you know that if you walk into 9 out of 10
(maybe even 10 out of 10) fly shops and ask, "Where are the
comparaduns?" you would find flies with the tails I mentioned. The
shops that carry both 'sparkleduns' and 'comparaduns' would have them
in separate bins.

Allan


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Hi Allan,

Okay, so you are right, I do not tie comparaduns.

My point is, why bother?

You can catch more fish with trailing schucks under all conditions I
have encountered. Never have I had a situation where a comparadun will
catch a fish that an emerger or sparkle dun type will not.

But I do believe that I will catch some fish with a trailing schuck fly
and not catch that fish with a comparadun.

AND - the fly with the shuck is easier to tie!!!!

Jim


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I would have to agree with Big Spinner. Flies with trailing shucks do
catch more fish for me. I still tie some with split tails but most of
my flies have Z-lon trailing shucks.


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I did not say that the fly described by Jim: catches less fish(may even
catch more); is less effective; does not float well(differently yes);
is not easier to tie; or anything like that in comparison to a
'Comparadun'. What I said was, 'The pattern he described is a
'Sparkledun', not a 'Comparadun'. That's all!

Of you take a Quill Gordon and change the body from a stripped peacock
quill to a stripped red(brown) hackle quill you get a Red Quill. You
take the body of a Q.G. and change it to one made out of a light tan
fur(or sub) and you get a Hendrickson.


Jim - As to your comment, "Why bother"?
The simple answer is fly tiers 'bother' tying all types of flies that
they use or don't use. Why bother tying at all? It's not, for the great
majority of us, not cost saving. In fact I'll never tie or use the
amount of money I have invested in my tying stuff. I'm sure I'd spend
less buying my flies. I'm guessing that you have more rods and reels
then you actually need. Why bother?

Allan


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