small spoon flies on trout

On Mar 29, 2:44*pm, Mike wrote:
On Mar 29, 9:29 pm, Willi wrote:





I use them in warm water for Bass and especially Crappie. *Never tried
it on trout, but I'm not much of a streamer guy.

I make mine differently. I use mylar tubing, which you probably have. I
tie on a tail of marabou, slide on the mylar tubing, tie it in at the
tail leaving a bit behind the tie in as a frayed skirt, then push the
rest of the tubing back toward the rear to make it flare out. *Then tie
it in at the head. You can either then crimp it horizontal or *vertical.
I often add either dumbell or bead chain eyes. You can coat it with
epoxy which is best but I'm usually lazy and just coat it with cement.

This picture is of the only one I could find done in a verticle
position. *It was just lightly coated with regular cement:

http://crystalglen.net/Fishing/Spoonfly.jpg

Willi

That´s an interesting variation from Willi, but it will have a
completely different action.

The original is here;

http://www.flyfishlouisiana.com/Spoon_fly_1.htm

The amount and position of lead is critical for the correct action,
and getting the fly just right is a finicky business. *The fingernail/
epoxy spoons described in the URL above are much easier to make, and
work with just the weight of the epoxy in the concave fingernail. A
guy form Florida wrote me that he had lots of fish on them, and he
used hot melt glue instead of epoxy.

TL
MC

Thanks for the feedback you guys, great stuff.

I went out to get the stuff and was really, really saddened to find my
local fly shop, Two Guys Fly Shop, completely empty. Not sure what
happened but I wish all the best for those guys. I know one of the
brothers died a few years back, but I thought the store was doing
good.

Anyway, I have everything except the mylar sheet and, I guess, hooks
if I need to go a little larger. In terms of making some plain
colored, silver, would a mylar balloon work? I also picked up a
product called sparkle glaze to experiment with. They had some
interesting top glosses at Hobby Lobby, like pearlescent and stuff.
The sparkle glaze claims: Adds a clear iridescent sparkle. Also, not
sure if it was the right choice but, when I got the Sally Hansen's
hard-as-nails, I got the arcylic+nylon. Am guessing what I'll need in
the way of plastic for the thick layer assuming fairly stiff but
extremely thin, clear, sheet protectors.

Best regards,

Tim

On Mar 30, 12:39 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:


Anyway, I have everything except the mylar sheet and, I guess, hooks
if I need to go a little larger. In terms of making some plain
colored, silver, would a mylar balloon work? I also picked up a
product called sparkle glaze to experiment with. They had some
interesting top glosses at Hobby Lobby, like pearlescent and stuff.
The sparkle glaze claims: Adds a clear iridescent sparkle. Also, not
sure if it was the right choice but, when I got the Sally Hansen's
hard-as-nails, I got the arcylic+nylon. Am guessing what I'll need in
the way of plastic for the thick layer assuming fairly stiff but
extremely thin, clear, sheet protectors.

Best regards,

Tim

You can get the mylar tape and a lot of other similar stuff at more or
less any automobile accessory store ( "go -faster stripes" ! )

The mylar balloon material is too thin, and wont hold its shape.

You can use ordinary epoxy to coat the flies.

TL
MC

On Mar 29, 5:54*pm, Mike wrote:
On Mar 30, 12:39 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:



Anyway, I have everything except the mylar sheet and, I guess, hooks
if I need to go a little larger. In terms of making some plain
colored, silver, would a mylar balloon work? I also picked up a
product called sparkle glaze to experiment with. They had some
interesting top glosses at Hobby Lobby, like pearlescent and stuff.
The sparkle glaze claims: Adds a clear iridescent sparkle. Also, not
sure if it was the right choice but, when I got the Sally Hansen's
hard-as-nails, I got the arcylic+nylon. Am guessing what I'll need in
the way of plastic for the thick layer assuming fairly stiff but
extremely thin, clear, sheet protectors.

Best regards,

Tim

You can get the mylar tape and a lot of other similar stuff at more or
less any automobile accessory store ( "go -faster stripes" ! * )

The mylar balloon material is too thin, and wont hold its shape.

You can use ordinary epoxy to coat the flies.

TL
MC

Thanks Mike. I'll check it out. The original instructions suggested
the hard-as-nails over the epoxy for a nice finish...so I got it.
You're right, probably don't need it. This site has good pearlescent
and reflective tape: http://www.sal****erflies.com/catalog2.html#pearlsheet

Fun.

Thanks,

Tim

On Mar 29, 5:54*pm, Mike wrote:
On Mar 30, 12:39 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:



Anyway, I have everything except the mylar sheet and, I guess, hooks
if I need to go a little larger. In terms of making some plain
colored, silver, would a mylar balloon work? I also picked up a
product called sparkle glaze to experiment with. They had some
interesting top glosses at Hobby Lobby, like pearlescent and stuff.
The sparkle glaze claims: Adds a clear iridescent sparkle. Also, not
sure if it was the right choice but, when I got the Sally Hansen's
hard-as-nails, I got the arcylic+nylon. Am guessing what I'll need in
the way of plastic for the thick layer assuming fairly stiff but
extremely thin, clear, sheet protectors.

Best regards,

Tim

You can get the mylar tape and a lot of other similar stuff at more or
less any automobile accessory store ( "go -faster stripes" ! * )

The mylar balloon material is too thin, and wont hold its shape.

You can use ordinary epoxy to coat the flies.

TL
MC

The thought on the thin mylar was that, when attached to the clear
plastic sheet it really serves only to provide the color and
underlying shades/patterns to the fly, that the plastic sheet is what
holds its shape.

Made me wonder about just cutting the shape out of a red plastic
picnic plate and epoxying over that for red ones at least (because I
have some red ones in the pantry).

Halfordian Golfer

On Mar 30, 2:43 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Mar 29, 5:54 pm, Mike wrote:



On Mar 30, 12:39 am, Halfordian Golfer wrote:

Anyway, I have everything except the mylar sheet and, I guess, hooks
if I need to go a little larger. In terms of making some plain
colored, silver, would a mylar balloon work? I also picked up a
product called sparkle glaze to experiment with. They had some
interesting top glosses at Hobby Lobby, like pearlescent and stuff.
The sparkle glaze claims: Adds a clear iridescent sparkle. Also, not
sure if it was the right choice but, when I got the Sally Hansen's
hard-as-nails, I got the arcylic+nylon. Am guessing what I'll need in
the way of plastic for the thick layer assuming fairly stiff but
extremely thin, clear, sheet protectors.

Best regards,

Tim

You can get the mylar tape and a lot of other similar stuff at more or
less any automobile accessory store ( "go -faster stripes" ! )

The mylar balloon material is too thin, and wont hold its shape.

You can use ordinary epoxy to coat the flies.

TL
MC

The thought on the thin mylar was that, when attached to the clear
plastic sheet it really serves only to provide the color and
underlying shades/patterns to the fly, that the plastic sheet is what
holds its shape.

Made me wonder about just cutting the shape out of a red plastic
picnic plate and epoxying over that for red ones at least (because I
have some red ones in the pantry).

Halfordian Golfer

Actually, practically anything that will hold its shape, even thin
card, will work, as the epoxy will protect it quite well. You just
have to make sure you cover it well.

The only other problem with some of the very thin material is getting
it to stick to anything properly. Some plastics wont work very well
either, the epoxy doesn´t stick to them very well.

I cut some plastic shapes from washing-up-liquid bottles which worked
quite well, but some others I tried didn´t. You have to try them
before you commit to dressing any flies with them.

TL
MC

The ones I tried with double-sided adhesive tape came apart very
quickly in the water. I did try to coat the edges of the flies with
epoxy, but it obviously was not enough to waterproof them.

One may also make the "spoons" up first, just spread the epoxy on the
thich paper, or card, and complete the rest later. If you use nail
varnish, glitter, etc ,then you don´t need the metallised tape.

Now, I use my own fingernail patterns, as they are easy to make, and
very successful.

TL
MC

On Mar 29, 8:02 pm, Mike wrote:
The ones I tried with double-sided adhesive tape came apart very
quickly in the water. I did try to coat the edges of the flies with
epoxy, but it obviously was not enough to waterproof them.

One may also make the "spoons" up first, just spread the epoxy on the
thich paper, or card, and complete the rest later. If you use nail
varnish, glitter, etc ,then you don´t need the metallised tape.

Now, I use my own fingernail patterns, as they are easy to make, and
very successful.

TL
MC

ordered several from the link above. Will delay tying but will
probably be the right stuff. Will let you know how it goes. The site
had s sveveral choices. Tim

On Mar 30, 9:11 pm, Halfordian Golfer wrote:
On Mar 29, 8:02 pm, Mike wrote:

The ones I tried with double-sided adhesive tape came apart very
quickly in the water. I did try to coat the edges of the flies with
epoxy, but it obviously was not enough to waterproof them.

One may also make the "spoons" up first, just spread the epoxy on the
thich paper, or card, and complete the rest later. If you use nail
varnish, glitter, etc ,then you don´t need the metallised tape.

Now, I use my own fingernail patterns, as they are easy to make, and
very successful.

TL
MC

ordered several from the link above. Will delay tying but will
probably be the right stuff. Will let you know how it goes. The site
had s sveveral choices. Tim

Howdy Mike,

The brown truck just left me this and I'm VERY pleased. The first
thing was that they stuck a very good bumper sticker in the box "Got
Backing?". The second is that they sent an additional little bag
marked "samples". I'm glad because the Blue and Pearl in there is
something I should have had on the original order. What was included
were a half dozen packages of various "WTP Decorator Tape". Dude (and
I apologize for using the word "dude", sir, just that I'm from "The
People's Republic of Boulder" and it has slipped in to my lexicon)
this stuff is amazing. Super prismatic/holographic/pearlescent or
whatever the word is to describe whatever the heck that is. Seems like
a great product and I really dig the service from http://www.sal****erflies.com.

Best,

Tim