Dual nymphs

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:23:22 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 02 May 2008 15:31:48 -0500, wrote:

Um, why would one false cast a nymph (or a nymph rig)?

You tell me.

People don't know what they are doing...?

See it all the time.

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

See guys untangling messes too.

That I believe - false-casting multi-fly setups is a good way to make a
mess to untangle...

If I want to get some distance, false casting is necessary.

I'll accept that it may be necessary for you (and maybe others)...but it
isn't necessary.

And, yes, I do it all the time, effectively too.

That's fair enough, but just because some find it necessary or effective
doesn't mean that it IS necessary or effective for all (or at all).

TC,
R

d;o)

On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:


I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...


TC,
R


How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

MC

On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:


I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...


TC,
R


How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R





MC

On May 3, 12:31 am, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

TC,
R

How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R



MC

Dickie boy, that you are a really obnoxious piece of work never
actually bothered me all that much. But that you are also apparently
extremely stupid does bother me more than somewhat.

Go back to playing with yourself, you dumb tosser. Nobody else is
interested in your rubbish.

MC

On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

On May 3, 12:31 am, wrote:
On Fri, 2 May 2008 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT), Mike

wrote:
On May 3, 12:10 am, wrote:

I see lots of folks doing lots of stuff "all the time" that just ain't
right...and I don't do that stuff, either...

TC,
R

How does it go? Bwahahahhahhhahhahh...............................

Laughed? I nearly choked on my single malt!

Huh...well whadayaknow..."single malt" is slang for "penis of big rough
man with big rough hands in a trainstation" in Der Fadderland...so
THAT'S why you're always choking on one, but you say you're never
drunk...

Hey, don't worry - you're here, you're queer, and we're used to it,
R



MC

Dickie boy, that you are a really obnoxious piece of work never
actually bothered me all that much. But that you are also apparently
extremely stupid does bother me more than somewhat.

It's the middle of the night in Der Fadderland...don't you have some big
rough men with big rough hands waiting on you or something...

Go back to playing with yourself, you dumb tosser.

Sorry, but I've no interest in your perverted fantasies....

Nobody else is interested in your rubbish.

Nobody? OK, name them all...

Here's the amusing thing: if even just one person on the entire planet
has any interest whatsoever, you're wrong yet again...

And here's the REALLY amusing thing - you've already demonstrated that
YOU have an interest by the fact that you read and respond...and so, not
only are you wrong yet again, it's been you yourself that has proven
that you wrong...yet again...

SNICKER,
R

On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:10:35 -0500, wrote:

If I want to get some distance, false casting is necessary.

I'll accept that it may be necessary for you (and maybe others)...but it
isn't necessary.

And, yes, I do it all the time, effectively too.

That's fair enough, but just because some find it necessary or effective
doesn't mean that it IS necessary or effective for all (or at all).


Well, if you can pull 60 feet of line off your reel and cast it 60
feet without using a false cast, good luck. I'd pay money to see that
one.

Davey

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 May 2008 17:10:35 -0500, wrote:

Well, if you can pull 60 feet of line off your reel and cast it 60
feet without using a false cast, good luck. I'd pay money to see that
one.

Davey

Davey,
How much money?
Bring your wallet out to the Deschutes, Clearwater, Snake, or a any of a
dozen or so other large Pacific Northwest steelhead rivers anytime between
late August and mid November and I'll show you plenty of good steelhead
fishermen doing just that.


Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR


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On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:51:34 -0700, "Bob Weinberger"
wrote:

How much money?
Bring your wallet out to the Deschutes, Clearwater, Snake, or a any of a
dozen or so other large Pacific Northwest steelhead rivers anytime between
late August and mid November and I'll show you plenty of good steelhead
fishermen doing just that.

What kind of rods? You're telling me that these steelheaders can have
60 feet of line at their feet, and without one false cast get their
lure out 60 feet? No spey rods. No multi-rollcasts. Just take that
rod and without a falsecast toss it 60 feet. I'd pay good money for
someone to show me how to do that with a 5 weight which is my normal
nymphing rod.

Remember, this entire conversation began when I said that there is no
need to false cast when your rig goes downstream from you, all you
need is a circle cast. That's, maybe, twenty feet of line. Richard
asked why would anyone nymphing use a false cast. RW and I replied to
get more distance.

When steelheading with Peter, I've used an 8 weight, or a 10 ft Sage 7
weight. I could probably pick up thirty feet of line from downstream
and cast it back upstream an additional 30 feet using a circle cast
and no false casting. But it would be a nasty cast with a nymphing
rod (4 - 6 weight).

Dave

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Remember, this entire conversation began when I said that there is no
need to false cast when your rig goes downstream from you, all you
need is a circle cast. That's, maybe, twenty feet of line. Richard
asked why would anyone nymphing use a false cast. RW and I replied to
get more distance.

The point isn't that someone might sometimes cast a lot of line without
false casting.

The point is that there are MANY occasions in typical trout fishing when
you will want to false cast a nymph rig. Rdean seems to think that false
casting a nymph right is NEVER appropriate.

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rw wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:

Remember, this entire conversation began when I said that there is no
need to false cast when your rig goes downstream from you, all you
need is a circle cast. That's, maybe, twenty feet of line. Richard
asked why would anyone nymphing use a false cast. RW and I replied to
get more distance.


The point isn't that someone might sometimes cast a lot of line without
false casting.

The point is that there are MANY occasions in typical trout fishing when
you will want to false cast a nymph rig. Rdean seems to think that false
casting a nymph right is NEVER appropriate.


nymph "rig"

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