Um, well...er...

On 2008-05-07, wrote:
Nothing fishing-related (or political...), just, well, nauseating...

Well, howzabout some fly fishing stuff.

What do you fish when the water was low and clear and warming and you were
just about to get that secret fly combination that might get a fish and,
overnight, some lake ups the flow 300-400fps and clouds up everything and
you're left hanging without a clue? ("you" being, not so secretly, me)


nb (and it starts raining)

On Wed, 07 May 2008 19:21:18 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2008-05-07, wrote:
Nothing fishing-related (or political...), just, well, nauseating...

Well, howzabout some fly fishing stuff.

What do you fish when the water was low and clear and warming and you were
just about to get that secret fly combination that might get a fish and,
overnight, some lake ups the flow 300-400fps and clouds up everything and
you're left hanging without a clue? ("you" being, not so secretly, me)


nb (and it starts raining)

waitaminutewaitaminute..... you just started a thread about nymphing
and never answered back. Now you're starting another thread, looking
for more secrets of the trade?

On 2008-05-07, Dave LaCourse wrote:

waitaminutewaitaminute..... you just started a thread about nymphing
and never answered back. Now you're starting another thread, looking
for more secrets of the trade?

OH! ...you want me to regale you with tall tales of my dashing failure. OK,
I tried a single BH hot prince and single BH zebra with no luck and then
tried a wooley booger with no luck. I manage to tangle my line on my pole
at least one out of every 3-4 casts and snag a bush once every seven. On
the bright side, when it all comes together, I can get a #12 BWO straight
out about 20 yds and I got my leader/tippet tied correctly (blood knots at
2x, 4x, 5x) so it will lie down nicely when I don't hack the cast. My
mending skills are better than a push in the eye with a dry stick. I'm not
catching fish, yet, but the mechanics are improving steadily.

Happy?

nb

notbob wrote:
On 2008-05-07, Dave LaCourse wrote:


waitaminutewaitaminute..... you just started a thread about nymphing
and never answered back. Now you're starting another thread, looking
for more secrets of the trade?


OH! ...you want me to regale you with tall tales of my dashing failure. OK,
I tried a single BH hot prince and single BH zebra with no luck and then
tried a wooley booger with no luck. I manage to tangle my line on my pole
at least one out of every 3-4 casts and snag a bush once every seven. On
the bright side, when it all comes together, I can get a #12 BWO straight
out about 20 yds and I got my leader/tippet tied correctly (blood knots at
2x, 4x, 5x) so it will lie down nicely when I don't hack the cast. My
mending skills are better than a push in the eye with a dry stick. I'm not
catching fish, yet, but the mechanics are improving steadily.

Happy?

nb

Are you using an indicator? If so, try to mend without moving the indicator.

Fish the current along a seam (the boundary between the faster current
and the slower water). The fish will be in the slower water, waiting for
something edible to pass by in the faster current. Also fish around
depressions in the stream bottom and around large rocks and in tailouts.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On 2008-05-07, rw wrote:

Are you using an indicator? If so, try to mend without moving the indicator.

Not at this point. but I can usually see the end of my green line.

Fish the current along a seam (the boundary between the faster current
and the slower water).

Oh, I'm definitely fishing a seam. I have no waders and so my fishing range
is limited. But, I have a small beach right across from my place and a big
rock (car sized at river's edge) that breaks up the flow past the beach so
there's a seam about 5-10 yds out that is between sluggish and 5 ft deep
fast running. I fish it high, I fish it low. I fish it at the rock and
below (40 yds down). I fish it fast, I fish it slow. It's such a great
seam, I can pick just about any spot for any flow combo including drifting
an eddy back into the rock. Great mending practice, but no fish.

I'm not discouraged. I've seen and talked to people packing enough gear to
open an Orvis shop. I can watch 'em from my front window with my 10x50
Steiners, then mug 'em when they cross back over the access bridge. I've
talked to local guides scouting my section. None of 'em are catching much
of anything, right now.

nb

notbob wrote:
On 2008-05-07, rw wrote:


Are you using an indicator? If so, try to mend without moving the indicator.


Not at this point. but I can usually see the end of my green line.

I suggest using an indicator. It allows you to vary the depth to the
weight and the fly. I like the Fish Pimps. To minimize drag try tying on
a very long length of tippet, right up to the indicator. You'll have to
cut back your tapered leader and effectively ruin it for pretty casting,
but it really helps with drag.

Strike whenever the indicator so much as pauses.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On 2008-05-08, rw wrote:

I suggest using an indicator. It allows you to vary the depth to the
weight and the fly. I like the Fish Pimps. To minimize drag try tying on
a very long length of tippet, right up to the indicator. You'll have to
cut back your tapered leader and effectively ruin it for pretty casting,
but it really helps with drag.

Strike whenever the indicator so much as pauses.

I have some yel foam pinch-ons. I'll give'r a try.

nb

"rw" wrote


Strike whenever the indicator so much as pauses.



And if that isn't nearly every drift ... add some weight to your rig ...
you want to tap the bottom now and then and a beadhead won't get there alone
in many cases ...

On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:08:17 GMT, notbob wrote:

Happy?

Of course. But not because of your reply.

It is good netiquette to say "thank you" when people help you out by
answering your questions. Hell, it's just plain politeness to say
"thank you" when someone helps you out.

Yeah, your welcome and I ain't holdin' my breath.

You from NJ?

Dave

On 2008-05-07, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2008 23:08:17 GMT, notbob wrote:

Happy?

Of course. But not because of your reply.

It is good netiquette to say "thank you" when people help you out by
answering your questions. Hell, it's just plain politeness to say
"thank you" when someone helps you out.

Yeah, your welcome and I ain't holdin' my breath.

You from NJ?

Dave

Gee, I'm sorry, Dave.

But what? ...no thank-you for my conveniently affording you the opportunity
to reveal, once again, what a pompous ass you are? How impolite of you.

nb