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On May 16, 10:35*am, wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:51:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 16, 4:29*am, wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2008 00:54:25 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Because all these kind of niggling little attacks are partisan Richard. We both know that. No, "we" don't, because it isn't a niggling little attack or partisan. But the sense that they are either or both sure is...and paranoid, too. Noticing that he doesn't know history is actually about as non-partisan (in the political sense) as it gets. *Now, claiming he is somehow "un-American" because of it would be partisan...pointing out that it has been said that those who don't know any history are doomed to repeat it would not be... HTH, R And what you just did is SOP also. Wow. *Can't get anything past you... Its called "reverting to reserve message" in the trade or some such, HEY! *That's supposed to be a secret...have you been sneaking into meetings or something...? *I guess it's time to change the password... in this case restating without having to offer any evidence, the assertion that Obama doesn't know or is ignoring history. Oooooh, it's evidence you want...OK... Sen. Obama said: "I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies, like Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did." The article says Roosevelt and Truman did not, and that Kennedy either didn't or he sorta did, but made a mess of things. *You seem to agree with that assessment. *I'll not bother to quote the entire piece since the link is there, and I'll not quote you because, well, it's mostly gibberish. IAC, based upon that, Obama could not do it "like Roosevelt did" or "like Truman did," and with regard to Kennedy, he either did not, and so Obama could not do it "like...Kennedy did," or worse, Kennedy did, but ****ed it up, so for Obama to actually do it "like...Kennedy did," even allowing that Kennedy did "talk...to our enemies," would mean that he intends to be a rash, inexperienced leader with no follow-through.... And as an aside, there is no rational way for someone to be a supporter of Kennedy as POTUS, in general, and be very critical of George Bush, in general, as POTUS. *Heck, Kennedy fans should be yelling for a (Jeb)Bush/(Neil)Bush ticket... Get real. OK. *Done. The funny part of this is that campaign pros credit some part of these tactics to the folks that did Bill Clinton's campaigns. i.e., the targeting of these kinds of attrition tactics on the Strongest issues of the opposition. Darn, do you have a copy of the instruction book, too?!? *Someone's sure gonna get in trouble over this one... HTH, R Dave- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Note to Self: Never, never take these discussions serious enough to presume that even seven years into a disaster a true believer might figure out that a few of their presumptions might be faulty. Your comparison of Bush and Kennedy is a whopper that could cause win you this year's Joseph Goebbels Award. Good going. Following your logic and faulty reasoning Richard, I will categorically state that no American President has ever spoken directly to our country's enemies. Now I can probably join the "Bushee Dead ender Club." Just a side note: It looks like at least part of Bush's trip is to coordinate Israeli/US cooperation on a $300 million program of sabotage, assassination, and terrorism inside of Iran. It looks increasingly like Seymour Hirsch was right and the secret war INSIDE Iran has begun. I guess one stupid war isn't enough. Some of the money is going to PKK (Communist) terror teams now being trained in Northern Iraq for deployment into Iran. The US funded assassination groups inside Iran have already started to kill Revolutionary Guard Colonels systematically. One more dirty little war. Dave |
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