No bums allowed at the limo liberal spectacular...

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
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Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Janice wrote:
What was the price of gas at the end of the CLinton Presidency? I
remember it to be about $1.99. What was our deficit? What is the
price of gas now? It is $4.65 where I am.
What was the price of gasoline before the Democrats took control of the
legislative branch?

Sorry, I hate to confuse the issue with facts.
If I'm not mistaken, the last Energy Policy Act was in 2005. In that year
the Republicans still controlled both Houses and Bush and Cheney's secret
energy policy group was still in control.

"The 2006 US House election was held on November 7, 2006 to elect members
to the United States House of Representatives. All of the 435 seats in
the House were up for election. Those elected are serving in the 110th
United States Congress from January 3, 2007 until January 3, 2009. The
incumbent majority party, the Republican Party had controlled the house
since the 1994 election and was defeated by the Democrats who won a
majority in the House ending 12 years in opposition."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Yep, the facts will set you free.

I noticed that you didn't ask about the deficit or federal debt during
the during the Clinton years. Why not?

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Here's what the Democrats are doing about high gas prices....

This is too funny. You post a FAUXNEWS report, in its entirety, when you
could have simply posted a link. What were you ashamed to give credit to the
actual source? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html

Let me guess, McBush is calling for another gimmick to try and draw support
from illiterate lemmings like yourself?

Op

Are you saying the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect from
the disaster the Dems are proposing?

"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Janice wrote:
What was the price of gas at the end of the CLinton Presidency? I
remember it to be about $1.99. What was our deficit? What is the
price of gas now? It is $4.65 where I am.
What was the price of gasoline before the Democrats took control of
the legislative branch?

Sorry, I hate to confuse the issue with facts.
If I'm not mistaken, the last Energy Policy Act was in 2005. In that
year the Republicans still controlled both Houses and Bush and Cheney's
secret energy policy group was still in control.

"The 2006 US House election was held on November 7, 2006 to elect
members to the United States House of Representatives. All of the 435
seats in the House were up for election. Those elected are serving in
the 110th United States Congress from January 3, 2007 until January 3,
2009. The incumbent majority party, the Republican Party had controlled
the house since the 1994 election and was defeated by the Democrats who
won a majority in the House ending 12 years in opposition."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Yep, the facts will set you free.

I noticed that you didn't ask about the deficit or federal debt during
the during the Clinton years. Why not?

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Here's what the Democrats are doing about high gas prices....

This is too funny. You post a FAUXNEWS report, in its entirety, when you
could have simply posted a link. What were you ashamed to give credit to
the actual source? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html

Let me guess, McBush is calling for another gimmick to try and draw
support from illiterate lemmings like yourself?

Op

Are you saying the report is false?

Why would you ask that? I never stated or implied such.

Or are you trying to deflect from the disaster the Dems are proposing?

The Dems could hardly **** things up any worse than the previously
Republican controlled House, Senate and the Bush Admin. but I'm sure they
will give it a yeomans effort!

Let's assume that the Memorial Day to Labor Day tax freeze had passed. The
federal tax rate on gas is 18.4 cents per gallon. I'm gonna be generous and
assume that you would fill-up with 30 gallons of gas 15 times from May 26th
thru Sept. 1. You would recognize a total of $82.80 over 3 months. Or $5.52
each fill-up. If that $82.80 is gonna break you, I suspect that you need a
grreat deal more than a tax break to mend your financial woes. I further
suggest that you likely make considerably more than I do--I am a state
employee--electrician and I don't make squat.

Give the *******s a chance, you'd do it for that moron Bush.

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Janice wrote:
What was the price of gas at the end of the CLinton Presidency? I
remember it to be about $1.99. What was our deficit? What is the
price of gas now? It is $4.65 where I am.
What was the price of gasoline before the Democrats took control of
the legislative branch?

Sorry, I hate to confuse the issue with facts.
If I'm not mistaken, the last Energy Policy Act was in 2005. In that
year the Republicans still controlled both Houses and Bush and Cheney's
secret energy policy group was still in control.

"The 2006 US House election was held on November 7, 2006 to elect
members to the United States House of Representatives. All of the 435
seats in the House were up for election. Those elected are serving in
the 110th United States Congress from January 3, 2007 until January 3,
2009. The incumbent majority party, the Republican Party had controlled
the house since the 1994 election and was defeated by the Democrats who
won a majority in the House ending 12 years in opposition."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Yep, the facts will set you free.

I noticed that you didn't ask about the deficit or federal debt during
the during the Clinton years. Why not?

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Here's what the Democrats are doing about high gas prices....
This is too funny. You post a FAUXNEWS report, in its entirety, when you
could have simply posted a link. What were you ashamed to give credit to
the actual source? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html

Let me guess, McBush is calling for another gimmick to try and draw
support from illiterate lemmings like yourself?

Op
Are you saying the report is false?

Why would you ask that? I never stated or implied such.

Because you attacked the source and attacked me for posting it ("Let me
guess, McBush", "illiterate lemmings like yourself"... etc.). So you
are implying that the there must be some kind of credibility problem
with the source.

Are you saying that the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect
from the disaster the Dems are proposing?



Or are you trying to deflect from the disaster the Dems are proposing?

The Dems could hardly **** things up any worse than the previously
Republican controlled House, Senate and the Bush Admin. but I'm sure they
will give it a yeomans effort!

Let's assume that the Memorial Day to Labor Day tax freeze had passed. The
federal tax rate on gas is 18.4 cents per gallon. I'm gonna be generous and
assume that you would fill-up with 30 gallons of gas 15 times from May 26th
thru Sept. 1. You would recognize a total of $82.80 over 3 months. Or $5.52
each fill-up. If that $82.80 is gonna break you, I suspect that you need a
grreat deal more than a tax break to mend your financial woes. I further
suggest that you likely make considerably more than I do--I am a state
employee--electrician and I don't make squat.

Tell that to the guy who has a long commute.


Give the *******s a chance, you'd do it for that moron Bush.

Op

Bush has proven that he has the Midas Touch. Everything he touches
turns into a muffler. I'm hoping his "to do" list is very short.

The "*******s" (your description) could do worse and plan to do so.
Raising taxes in the middle of a slowdown is the best way to kill what
is left of the economy.

"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Janice wrote:
What was the price of gas at the end of the CLinton Presidency? I
remember it to be about $1.99. What was our deficit? What is the
price of gas now? It is $4.65 where I am.
What was the price of gasoline before the Democrats took control of
the legislative branch?

Sorry, I hate to confuse the issue with facts.
If I'm not mistaken, the last Energy Policy Act was in 2005. In that
year the Republicans still controlled both Houses and Bush and
Cheney's secret energy policy group was still in control.

"The 2006 US House election was held on November 7, 2006 to elect
members to the United States House of Representatives. All of the 435
seats in the House were up for election. Those elected are serving in
the 110th United States Congress from January 3, 2007 until January
3, 2009. The incumbent majority party, the Republican Party had
controlled the house since the 1994 election and was defeated by the
Democrats who won a majority in the House ending 12 years in
opposition." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Yep, the facts will set you free.

I noticed that you didn't ask about the deficit or federal debt
during the during the Clinton years. Why not?

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Here's what the Democrats are doing about high gas prices....
This is too funny. You post a FAUXNEWS report, in its entirety, when
you could have simply posted a link. What were you ashamed to give
credit to the actual source?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html

Let me guess, McBush is calling for another gimmick to try and draw
support from illiterate lemmings like yourself?

Op
Are you saying the report is false?

Why would you ask that? I never stated or implied such.

Because you attacked the source and attacked me for posting it ("Let me
guess, McBush", "illiterate lemmings like yourself"... etc.). So you are
implying that the there must be some kind of credibility problem with the
source.

Attacking the sources credibility is far from saying the report is/was
false. And yes I am saying that there is an enormous credibility problem
with FAUXNEWS--the same as I would much of what is presented by Keith
Olbermann on MSNBC, or by Bill O' Reilly. I good entertainment to many, but
short on hard new info.

Are you saying that the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect
from the disaster the Dems are proposing?



Or are you trying to deflect from the disaster the Dems are proposing?

The Dems could hardly **** things up any worse than the previously
Republican controlled House, Senate and the Bush Admin. but I'm sure they
will give it a yeomans effort!

Let's assume that the Memorial Day to Labor Day tax freeze had passed.
The federal tax rate on gas is 18.4 cents per gallon. I'm gonna be
generous and assume that you would fill-up with 30 gallons of gas 15
times from May 26th thru Sept. 1. You would recognize a total of $82.80
over 3 months. Or $5.52 each fill-up. If that $82.80 is gonna break you,
I suspect that you need a grreat deal more than a tax break to mend your
financial woes. I further suggest that you likely make considerably more
than I do--I am a state employee--electrician and I don't make squat.

Tell that to the guy who has a long commute.


Give the *******s a chance, you'd do it for that moron Bush.

Op

Bush has proven that he has the Midas Touch. Everything he touches turns
into a muffler. I'm hoping his "to do" list is very short.

I say those that voted for such a complete idiot, got what they deserve from
him and all associated with him.

The "*******s" (your description) could do worse and plan to do so.

I doubt it but we will see when Obama take office.

Raising taxes in the middle of a slowdown is the best way to kill what is
left of the economy.

I guess it depends on which taxes and how much of an increase. Only time
will tell.

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Janice wrote:
What was the price of gas at the end of the CLinton Presidency? I
remember it to be about $1.99. What was our deficit? What is the
price of gas now? It is $4.65 where I am.
What was the price of gasoline before the Democrats took control of
the legislative branch?

Sorry, I hate to confuse the issue with facts.
If I'm not mistaken, the last Energy Policy Act was in 2005. In that
year the Republicans still controlled both Houses and Bush and
Cheney's secret energy policy group was still in control.

"The 2006 US House election was held on November 7, 2006 to elect
members to the United States House of Representatives. All of the 435
seats in the House were up for election. Those elected are serving in
the 110th United States Congress from January 3, 2007 until January
3, 2009. The incumbent majority party, the Republican Party had
controlled the house since the 1994 election and was defeated by the
Democrats who won a majority in the House ending 12 years in
opposition." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_2005

Yep, the facts will set you free.

I noticed that you didn't ask about the deficit or federal debt
during the during the Clinton years. Why not?

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Here's what the Democrats are doing about high gas prices....
This is too funny. You post a FAUXNEWS report, in its entirety, when
you could have simply posted a link. What were you ashamed to give
credit to the actual source?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,386643,00.html

Let me guess, McBush is calling for another gimmick to try and draw
support from illiterate lemmings like yourself?

Op
Are you saying the report is false?
Why would you ask that? I never stated or implied such.
Because you attacked the source and attacked me for posting it ("Let me
guess, McBush", "illiterate lemmings like yourself"... etc.). So you are
implying that the there must be some kind of credibility problem with the
source.

Attacking the sources credibility is far from saying the report is/was
false. And yes I am saying that there is an enormous credibility problem
with FAUXNEWS--the same as I would much of what is presented by Keith
Olbermann on MSNBC, or by Bill O' Reilly. I good entertainment to many, but
short on hard new info.

And yet you still fail to answer the question: Are you saying the
report is false? Or are you trying to deflect from the disaster the
Dems are proposing?



Are you saying that the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect
from the disaster the Dems are proposing?


Or are you trying to deflect from the disaster the Dems are proposing?
The Dems could hardly **** things up any worse than the previously
Republican controlled House, Senate and the Bush Admin. but I'm sure they
will give it a yeomans effort!

Let's assume that the Memorial Day to Labor Day tax freeze had passed.
The federal tax rate on gas is 18.4 cents per gallon. I'm gonna be
generous and assume that you would fill-up with 30 gallons of gas 15
times from May 26th thru Sept. 1. You would recognize a total of $82.80
over 3 months. Or $5.52 each fill-up. If that $82.80 is gonna break you,
I suspect that you need a grreat deal more than a tax break to mend your
financial woes. I further suggest that you likely make considerably more
than I do--I am a state employee--electrician and I don't make squat.

Putting additional taxes on gasoline attacks the poor, not those who can
easily pay for it. Its a TERRIBLE idea.

And increasing any taxes during an economic downturn is not the way to
turn the economy around. Its the best way to drive it into collapse.


I say those that voted for such a complete idiot, got what they deserve from
him and all associated with him.

And yet, the best the Dems could not defeat him with their best
candidates. That doesn't say much for their choice of candidates. It
doesn't say much for their pool of talent.



The "*******s" (your description) could do worse and plan to do so.

I doubt it but we will see when Obama take office.

"When"? That's hardly a done deal. And with his position in favor of
moving troops from Iraq to Afgan, he's losing support from the anti-war
groups he used to have on his side. That very seriously hurt his
credibility.

But both Obama and McCain are terrible candidates. The question is
which one will do the least damage.



Raising taxes in the middle of a slowdown is the best way to kill what is
left of the economy.

I guess it depends on which taxes and how much of an increase. Only time
will tell.

No! ANY increase in taxes or new taxes will hurt the economy. Period.
We can't take money out of the hands of those who would pull the
economy out of this slowdown.



Op

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:18:02 -0500, Peaceful Bill
wrote:

Are you saying the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect from
the disaster the Dems are proposing?

"disaster"?

The Republicans have run this country into the deepest financial ditch in its
history - your great grandchildren will still be paying off the TRILLIONS of
dollars of debt they've kited - and you call a ten cent per gallon tax to
provide for the national infrastructure - that the same Republican nitwits
ignored while they controlled Congress - a "disaster"?

Forget the national debt, forget the thousands of Americans killed while Shrub
slept at the switch, forget the thousands of Americans killed in an
unnecessary war, forget the banking crisis, forget the housing crisis, forget
the climbing unemployment rate, forget the undermining of the EPA, forget the
undermining of the FDA, but let's call a dime a gallon tax to fix crumbling
highways, tunnels and bridges a "disaster".

Idiot.

/daytripper (who didn't realize anyone could drink *that* much Kool-Aid)

daytripper wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:18:02 -0500, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
Are you saying the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect from
the disaster the Dems are proposing?

"disaster"?

The Republicans have run this country into the deepest financial ditch in its
history - your great grandchildren will still be paying off the TRILLIONS of
dollars of debt they've kited - and you call a ten cent per gallon tax to
provide for the national infrastructure - that the same Republican nitwits
ignored while they controlled Congress - a "disaster"?

The cause for most of the debt are the entitlement programs created by
the Democrats.



Forget the national debt, forget the thousands of Americans killed while Shrub
slept at the switch, forget the thousands of Americans killed in an
unnecessary war, forget the banking crisis, forget the housing crisis, forget
the climbing unemployment rate, forget the undermining of the EPA, forget the
undermining of the FDA, but let's call a dime a gallon tax to fix crumbling
highways, tunnels and bridges a "disaster".

Idiot.

/daytripper (who didn't realize anyone could drink *that* much Kool-Aid)

And why is there a housing / mortgage crisis? Banking crisis? Were
those a result of laws passed during the Clinton administration to make
it easier to get mortgage loans? Just what was the origin of the
sub-prime crisis?

Unemployment rate is about the same during the Clinton administration
when they claimed that 4.5% was full employment.

What undermining of the EPA? Do you mean creating sensible rules in
which to live and operate? Undermining the FDA? Do you mean getting
potentially helpful drugs to the needy in a more timely manner?

Flat-earth imbecile.

"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
daytripper wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:18:02 -0500, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
Are you saying the report is false? Or are you trying to deflect from
the disaster the Dems are proposing?

"disaster"?

The Republicans have run this country into the deepest financial ditch in
its
history - your great grandchildren will still be paying off the TRILLIONS
of
dollars of debt they've kited - and you call a ten cent per gallon tax to
provide for the national infrastructure - that the same Republican
nitwits
ignored while they controlled Congress - a "disaster"?

The cause for most of the debt are the entitlement programs created by the
Democrats.

Please provide proof--actual facts--that support this laughable assertion.

Forget the national debt, forget the thousands of Americans killed while
Shrub
slept at the switch, forget the thousands of Americans killed in an
unnecessary war, forget the banking crisis, forget the housing crisis,
forget
the climbing unemployment rate, forget the undermining of the EPA, forget
the
undermining of the FDA, but let's call a dime a gallon tax to fix
crumbling
highways, tunnels and bridges a "disaster".

Idiot.

/daytripper (who didn't realize anyone could drink *that* much Kool-Aid)

And why is there a housing / mortgage crisis? Banking crisis? Were those
a result of laws passed during the Clinton administration to make it
easier to get mortgage loans? Just what was the origin of the sub-prime
crisis?

I'd say it's greed unregulated among a very protected group and that both
parties are to blame, but you seem hell bent to blame Clinton and his admin.
before you know the simplist of facts. And what banking crisis are you
speaking of?

Unemployment rate is about the same during the Clinton administration when
they claimed that 4.5% was full employment.

Too funny! Umm considering that the unemployment rate was at 7.4% when
Clinton took over after daddy Bush, and it was down to 4.0% by the time he
left office in 2000. Excepect for a hangover period after daddy Bush left
office in which the rate continued to climb for a period--to a high of 7.8%
in June of '92--before Clinton's economic policies took effect, the rate
dropped steadily over the next 7 years.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

What undermining of the EPA? Do you mean creating sensible rules in which
to live and operate?

So breathing and drinking water aren't high on your list of living
standards? Not that I'm surprised mind ya.

Undermining the FDA? Do you mean getting potentially helpful drugs to the
needy in a more timely manner?

Please support this claim! Hell the poor and elderly were and likely still
are driving across the border to Canada to gain access to reasonably priced
meds! And a slew of med have been pull in the last 7 years due to falsified
or poor testing standards.

Flat-earth imbecile.

Flat-head Moron!

Op


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...

The cause for most of the debt are the entitlement programs created by the
Democrats.

Please provide proof--actual facts--that support this laughable assertion.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10609044/

Entitlement programs eat up more than half the budget.



And why is there a housing / mortgage crisis? Banking crisis? Were those
a result of laws passed during the Clinton administration to make it
easier to get mortgage loans? Just what was the origin of the sub-prime
crisis?

I'd say it's greed unregulated among a very protected group and that both
parties are to blame, but you seem hell bent to blame Clinton and his admin.
before you know the simplist of facts. And what banking crisis are you
speaking of?

The banking crisis was referenced by previous poster in this thread.
"daydripper" is it?

Both parties are to blame. Not just Clinton, but he's a pretty easy target.


What undermining of the EPA? Do you mean creating sensible rules in which
to live and operate?

So breathing and drinking water aren't high on your list of living
standards? Not that I'm surprised mind ya.

Where is it in this country (not China, India, Japan or Thailand) were
the air is unbreathable? What city water supplies don't pass drinking
water standards?


Undermining the FDA? Do you mean getting potentially helpful drugs to the
needy in a more timely manner?

Please support this claim! Hell the poor and elderly were and likely still
are driving across the border to Canada to gain access to reasonably priced
meds! And a slew of med have been pull in the last 7 years due to falsified
or poor testing standards.

In the last 7 years? That means that they were developed, tested and
released more than 7 years ago. During the previous administration.

"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...
Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
...

The cause for most of the debt are the entitlement programs created by
the Democrats.

Please provide proof--actual facts--that support this laughable
assertion.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10609044/

Entitlement programs eat up more than half the budget.

"The cause for most of the debt are the entitlement programs created by
the Democrats." (your words)

You are mixing apples and oranges. The federal budget and the National Debt
are two different things. Federal borrowing is running up the federal
debt--whether it is leaving Treasury Securities in the Social Security Fund
or selling Treasury Securities to the Japanese, Chinese, English, or all
others.

Here's a website with a nice easy to read pie-chart showing who owns what
portion of our nation's debt--as or June 2007.
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/...-billion-.html

This is quite informative as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

"the biggest holder of Treasury debt was the U.S. government itself, with
about 52 percent of the total $8.5 trillion in paper that's out there. Most
of the government’s holdings are massive savings accounts for programs like
Social Security and Medicare." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17424874/

One of the "mandatory spending" programs that you might call an entitlement
is
"interest on National Debt--9% of budget.

Yes, Social Security is 21% of budget--but it is fully funded, except that
both parties tend to rob form it
and leave Treasury Securities as IOUs.

Medicare and Medicaid/SCHIP is about 7.2% of the budget--part of Medicare
pays for itself and part doesn't.

Then there's Unemployment, Welfare and other mandatory spending at about
11.2% of
the budget.
http://useconomy.about.com/od/fy2008..._Mandatory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:F...bycategory.png

Now which of these useless programs are you willing to do away with? We
could simply stop paying on the National Debt--of course we could say
goodbye to the American way of life as we know it. Perhaps we could rescind
the Unemployment Compensation Tax--of course then anyone who lost their job
would have to steal, rob, or pillage their way to a better life. We could
could rescind the Social Security taxation system--but then all of those
poor people paying a few extra cents a gallon for gas wouldn't really need
any gas as they would simply waste away. You know these are the folks that
didn't quite make it educationally or were too lazy to find high paying
positions as CEOs, or maybe they were just unfortunate entrepreneurs and
small business folks that fell on hard times. Nonetheless, let them eat
cake, right! I know, why don't we rid ourselves of that pesky Medicare and
Medicaid/SCHIP--I mean, old people need to die anyway, and if they're dead
they won't need any medications and the children who are provided for by
SCHIP can scrounge for healthcare the best they know how, right.

OOOOOHHH NOOOOOO Mr. Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And why is there a housing / mortgage crisis? Banking crisis? Were
those a result of laws passed during the Clinton administration to make
it easier to get mortgage loans? Just what was the origin of the
sub-prime crisis?

I'd say it's greed unregulated among a very protected group and that both
parties are to blame, but you seem hell bent to blame Clinton and his
admin. before you know the simplist of facts. And what banking crisis are
you speaking of?

The banking crisis was referenced by previous poster in this thread.
"daydripper" is it?

So you took it an ran with it? I suspect 'trippers referent to the "banking
crisis" was a bit overblown, but I have been wrong before. Yes, some of the
larger banks are experiencing difficulties due to the subprime debacle, but
I wouldn't portray such as a banking crisis. Again, I'm a mere electrician
and far from an economist, but I reports of the demise of America's banks is
greatly exaggerated. However:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...sOnTheWay.aspx
http://www.247wallst.com/2008/02/signs-point-to.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+S earch

I could be wrong.

Both parties are to blame. Not just Clinton, but he's a pretty easy
target.


What undermining of the EPA? Do you mean creating sensible rules in
which to live and operate?

So breathing and drinking water aren't high on your list of living
standards? Not that I'm surprised mind ya.

Where is it in this country (not China, India, Japan or Thailand) were the
air is unbreathable? What city water supplies don't pass drinking water
standards?

http://tinyurl.com/6qghho
https://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2005.asp
http://lungaction.org/reports/stateoftheair2005.html
http://www.takebackthepower.net/cong...es.cfm?ID=8368

Enjoy the reading, it's really very sad.


Undermining the FDA? Do you mean getting potentially helpful drugs to
the needy in a more timely manner?

Please support this claim! Hell the poor and elderly were and likely
still are driving across the border to Canada to gain access to
reasonably priced meds! And a slew of med have been pull in the last 7
years due to falsified or poor testing standards.

In the last 7 years? That means that they were developed, tested and
released more than 7 years ago. During the previous administration.

What has development got to do with *approval*? Approval was under the Bush
Admins. watch.
Weakening regulatory agencies--reduced funding--and stripping agencies of
their regulatory authority has been the bread and butter of the Bush
Administration and the Republican controlled Congress.

Personally, I'll pay higher taxes to preserve my air and water quality. YMMV
though.

Op


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