Popularity of Usenet - Affects on ROFB

What made/makes r.o.f.b. so great is it's lack of commercialism.

OUCH!!! I think I just heard Ken Fortenburys stack blow... but hear me out.

Sure, there are a few questionable posts here from people who could be
classified as spammers... but the group itself has no real affiliation with
any one entity. Example is if you hosted the forums on YumaBassMan.com...
you have the option to do any number of things with the boards beyond anyone
elses control, and anyone coming into the forums would automatically
associate them with YumaBassMan. Same thing if Secret Weapon Lures or anyone
else re-created r.o.f.b. in a web-based environment. r.o.f.b. isn't yours,
it isn't mine, it's everybodies. Other than to report spammers to their
ISP's... we really have no say so in what get's posted here, or what
happens.

I'm not saying that we're not heading in that direction, cause I know
there'll be a time when it comes to doing that very thing or watching our
group fall by the wayside, and no one wants to see that happen. We've made
too many friends here to allow that.



"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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"Charles Summers" wrote in message
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What you are talking about is a piece of cake to set up and run...
however,

Usenet web portal? I haven't a clue. I looked at it a couple times, but
could not figure it out. A forum is easy enough though. I run a couple
of them. I think that a Usenet Web portal just for ROFB would be fun and
useful though, and it would still be Usenet.

being so, there are literally thousands of the same thing out there on
the Internet. What would make ours so much more special than any of the
others?

Not a darn thing, and we could more easily meet on Outdoor Frontiers web
forums or Yuma Bass Man and do all the same chit chat. Especially if
travelling and borrowing other people's computers.

That's what needs to come to mind when deciding the fate of r.o.f.b.
Personally, I think our specialty is Usenet.

I agree, except that as some have pointed out Usenet is pretty hard to
setup and find sources for many people. I still think a Web Portal would
be a good idea. In fact I suggested it when Andrew took over the FAQ site
several years ago. It was poo pooed at the time, and as long as the
majority here do not want it I won't follow up on learning how to
implement one.

We have nothing to offer but advice, so unless we want to start giving
away gifts and prizes... and who can afford to continue doing that as
well as paying for the server?

Heck, I give away prizes on Yuma Bass Man. Its doesn't really do anything
for participation. The loyal members appreciate it, and a few whiny butts
have thrown a hissy fit, and left their butt print on my door on the way
out because they didn't like the way I was giving away free stuff. LOL.
On the other hand, these days server hosting cost is minimal. I pay less
today for 2.5 terabytes of web hosting storage and infinite domains hosted
than I did just for registration when I registered my first URL. Actually
if Joe renegotiated his deal at his host he could have the same deal I
have. That's where I am currently hosted for all but one of my more
complex sites, and as soon as I get my databases sorted out it will go
there too.

BTW: Not flaming you... just answering your question.

Very good answers to Charles.

Google is not he answer by the way. It serves up all 20-30K +/- of the
text based groups, but in no way will somebody doing a search on the
internet for bass fishing info ever find ROFB through Google.

By the way, the new thing for many web based regular forums is to provide
content via RSS. Serves it up in their reader program similarly to Usenet
groups. LOL.

Bob La Londe

Charles Summers wrote:
What made/makes r.o.f.b. so great is it's lack of commercialism.

OUCH!!! I think I just heard Ken Fortenburys stack blow... but hear me out.
...

No blowouts here, in fact I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Most folks know that posting commercials here is unwelcome
and counterproductive. The advice you get here, whether you
agree with it or not, is the real deal and not a bunch of
sales hype. And yes, that makes this place a great resource.

Unfortunately, Usenet is going the way of the dodo and will
soon suffer the same fate as the buggy whip. Enjoy it while
it lasts.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Charles Summers" wrote in message
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What made/makes r.o.f.b. so great is it's lack of commercialism.

OUCH!!! I think I just heard Ken Fortenburys stack blow... but hear me
out.

Sure, there are a few questionable posts here from people who could be
classified as spammers... but the group itself has no real affiliation
with any one entity. Example is if you hosted the forums on
YumaBassMan.com... you have the option to do any number of things with the
boards beyond anyone elses control, and anyone coming into the forums
would automatically associate them with YumaBassMan. Same thing if Secret
Weapon Lures or anyone else re-created r.o.f.b. in a web-based
environment. r.o.f.b. isn't yours, it isn't mine, it's everybodies. Other
than to report spammers to their ISP's... we really have no say so in what
get's posted here, or what happens.

No, no, no, no. A web portal for R.O.F.B. (if I did it anyway) would just
be installed on the ROFB website as a stand alone site and application.
Basically you could interact with ROFB via the web portal anytime a Usenet
server was not available, or if you are just an Internet newbie who doesn't
have a clue what Usenet is. (I still don't know how to do it exactly, but I
am sure I could figure it out if it was wanted.)

No commercialism involved. Just another easier way for the uninitiated to
find their way here. The people who could really use your advice.

ROFB has been hosted as a parked domain pointing to a subdirectory on SWL's
hosting server for the last several years, until it was moved to mine.
That's just a technicality. Other than a tiny notice at the bottom of the
home page ROFB's website is ROFBs for the benefit of ROFB, and I don't think
anybody thought otherwise. I was not implying in anyway that ROFB should
become a part of Yuma Bass Man or Outdoor Frontiers or SWL. Just that a
Usenet web portal on the ROFB web site that accessed Usenet for the sole
purpose of reading and participating in ROFB might result in an occasional
new participant.

I'm not talking about setting up a group of forums. I could do that if I
wanted to. I could even do like the fish easy guy did and copy usenet
activity onto a forum. I'm talking about ROFB's own access to this Usenet
group without the need of every single person having to learn about how
Usenet works like most of us did back when every ISP offered Usenet access.

Bob La Londe wrote:
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
What made/makes r.o.f.b. so great is it's lack of commercialism.

OUCH!!! I think I just heard Ken Fortenburys stack blow... but hear me
out.

Sure, there are a few questionable posts here from people who could be
classified as spammers... but the group itself has no real affiliation
with any one entity. Example is if you hosted the forums on
YumaBassMan.com... you have the option to do any number of things with
the boards beyond anyone elses control, and anyone coming into the
forums would automatically associate them with YumaBassMan. Same thing
if Secret Weapon Lures or anyone else re-created r.o.f.b. in a
web-based environment. r.o.f.b. isn't yours, it isn't mine, it's
everybodies. Other than to report spammers to their ISP's... we really
have no say so in what get's posted here, or what happens.

No, no, no, no. A web portal for R.O.F.B. (if I did it anyway) would
just be installed on the ROFB website as a stand alone site and
application. Basically you could interact with ROFB via the web portal
anytime a Usenet server was not available, or if you are just an
Internet newbie who doesn't have a clue what Usenet is. (I still don't
know how to do it exactly, but I am sure I could figure it out if it was
wanted.)

No commercialism involved. Just another easier way for the uninitiated
to find their way here. The people who could really use your advice.

ROFB has been hosted as a parked domain pointing to a subdirectory on
SWL's hosting server for the last several years, until it was moved to
mine. That's just a technicality. Other than a tiny notice at the
bottom of the home page ROFB's website is ROFBs for the benefit of ROFB,
and I don't think anybody thought otherwise. I was not implying in
anyway that ROFB should become a part of Yuma Bass Man or Outdoor
Frontiers or SWL. Just that a Usenet web portal on the ROFB web site
that accessed Usenet for the sole purpose of reading and participating
in ROFB might result in an occasional new participant.

I'm not talking about setting up a group of forums. I could do that if
I wanted to. I could even do like the fish easy guy did and copy usenet
activity onto a forum. I'm talking about ROFB's own access to this
Usenet group without the need of every single person having to learn
about how Usenet works like most of us did back when every ISP offered
Usenet access.



That is exactly what I was thinking of. Add forums and you become just
like the others. Stay bass only and the riff-raff will go where there is
more action. The attraction here is Quality over Quantity, you don't
have to wade through a lot of garbage to find jewels. The problem is,
you do need SOME quantity.

Just my two cents, but...

I belong to a message board, there are several categories and you can either
create a new topic or respond to an existing one. It was created as a blog
by my old boss for us all to keep in touch, it now has new found friends
from all over the US to include Alaska and can be checked from anywhere.

There's a link, picture and music category to name a few. I guess the
interface looks better than the email format I see in here.

Mike



"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Charles Summers" wrote in message
. ..
What made/makes r.o.f.b. so great is it's lack of commercialism.

OUCH!!! I think I just heard Ken Fortenburys stack blow... but hear me
out.

Sure, there are a few questionable posts here from people who could be
classified as spammers... but the group itself has no real affiliation
with any one entity. Example is if you hosted the forums on
YumaBassMan.com... you have the option to do any number of things with
the boards beyond anyone elses control, and anyone coming into the
forums would automatically associate them with YumaBassMan. Same thing
if Secret Weapon Lures or anyone else re-created r.o.f.b. in a web-based
environment. r.o.f.b. isn't yours, it isn't mine, it's everybodies.
Other than to report spammers to their ISP's... we really have no say so
in what get's posted here, or what happens.

No, no, no, no. A web portal for R.O.F.B. (if I did it anyway) would
just be installed on the ROFB website as a stand alone site and
application. Basically you could interact with ROFB via the web portal
anytime a Usenet server was not available, or if you are just an Internet
newbie who doesn't have a clue what Usenet is. (I still don't know how
to do it exactly, but I am sure I could figure it out if it was wanted.)

No commercialism involved. Just another easier way for the uninitiated
to find their way here. The people who could really use your advice.

ROFB has been hosted as a parked domain pointing to a subdirectory on
SWL's hosting server for the last several years, until it was moved to
mine. That's just a technicality. Other than a tiny notice at the bottom
of the home page ROFB's website is ROFBs for the benefit of ROFB, and I
don't think anybody thought otherwise. I was not implying in anyway that
ROFB should become a part of Yuma Bass Man or Outdoor Frontiers or SWL.
Just that a Usenet web portal on the ROFB web site that accessed Usenet
for the sole purpose of reading and participating in ROFB might result in
an occasional new participant.

I'm not talking about setting up a group of forums. I could do that if I
wanted to. I could even do like the fish easy guy did and copy usenet
activity onto a forum. I'm talking about ROFB's own access to this
Usenet group without the need of every single person having to learn
about how Usenet works like most of us did back when every ISP offered
Usenet access.



That is exactly what I was thinking of. Add forums and you become just
like the others. Stay bass only and the riff-raff will go where there is
more action. The attraction here is Quality over Quantity, you don't have
to wade through a lot of garbage to find jewels. The problem is, you do
need SOME quantity.