It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...

riverman wrote:
wrote:
what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
...
You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no
ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted
the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence
that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need
to do it here, too.

LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna
stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The
first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody
would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama
with a racial slur is shocking. Disgusting sure, but hardly
shocking. I suppose if one were in a generous mood you could be
shocked that Rick knew the title of a Richard Pryor album but I
don't think that's the shock he was looking for.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Sep 23, 12:18*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
riverman wrote:
wrote:
what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
...
You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no
ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted
the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence
that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need
to do it here, too.

LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna
stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The
first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody
would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama
with a racial slur is shocking.

Mississippi doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Sep 23, 7:04*pm, wrote:

what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
R

Also vile, if you ask me. And if Sandra Bernhardt was a regular poster
here, and posted such tripe, I'd tell her so.

Um, you have a problem with people posting album titles? And if you
think the titles are tripe, why comment to me about it - I had nothing
to do with them.

And I would expect her to drop the pretense of having not actually
done anything wrong. But she, at least, is a professional comedian and
being vile is her schtick.

You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no
ulterior motive

Oops, you're wrong yet again. I never even intimated, much less
insisted, that I had no "ulterior motive." But having one doesn't make
something wrong (or right). I had a motive and I stated it. And I
didn't do "anything wrong" by any objective standard. The titles of
many albums and songs have been posted to ROFF over the years, and to
the best of my recollection, neither you or anyone else has objected.

with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted
the name of an album',

OK. I'll ask again - please identify the language in my post where I
called, labeled, or otherwise commented on or about Obama on anything.

but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that.

Hey, I don't insist you do jack ****. But I'll say this - you can't
show where I said _anything_ about Obama in that post because I
purposefully didn't say _anything_. Your own racism and hypocrisy
connected the two, not me.

I deal with children all day,

Birds of a feather, I take it...

I don't need to do it here, too.

Oh sure you do.

HTH,
R

--riverman

wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 12:18 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
riverman wrote:
wrote:
what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
...
You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no
ulterior motive with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted
the name of an album', but you insult us with your childish insistence
that we must believe that. I deal with children all day, I don't need
to do it here, too.

LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna
stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The
first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody
would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama
with a racial slur is shocking.

Mississippi doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

You'll have to pardon kennie......his own racism, misogyny, bigotry and
homophobia make it impossible for him to present a facade convincing to any
but the most casual and ignorant reader.

On the other hand, few can milk family and infirmity like he can!

Wolfgang
well, there's davie......but that's just one.....hardly negates "few."

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:

On Sep 23, 7:04 pm, wrote:

what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
R

Also vile, if you ask me. And if Sandra Bernhardt was a regular poster
here, and posted such tripe, I'd tell her so.

Um, you have a problem with people posting album titles? And if you
think the titles are tripe, why comment to me about it - I had nothing
to do with them.

And I would expect her to drop the pretense of having not actually
done anything wrong. But she, at least, is a professional comedian and
being vile is her schtick.

You, on the other hand, can continue to insist that you had no
ulterior motive

Oops, you're wrong yet again. I never even intimated, much less
insisted, that I had no "ulterior motive." But having one doesn't make
something wrong (or right). I had a motive and I stated it. And I
didn't do "anything wrong" by any objective standard. The titles of
many albums and songs have been posted to ROFF over the years, and to
the best of my recollection, neither you or anyone else has objected.

with your foolish post, and that you "merely posted
the name of an album',

OK. I'll ask again - please identify the language in my post where I
called, labeled, or otherwise commented on or about Obama on anything.

but you insult us with your childish insistence that we must believe that.

Hey, I don't insist you do jack ****. But I'll say this - you can't
show where I said _anything_ about Obama in that post because I
purposefully didn't say _anything_. Your own racism and hypocrisy
connected the two, not me.

I deal with children all day,

Birds of a feather, I take it...

I don't need to do it here, too.

Oh sure you do.

O.k., I guessed wrong. You're what?........9?

Wolfgang
and some of you STILL think this piece of ignorant filth is worthy of
defending!

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
LOL !! Well, that's Rick's latest story and by gawd he's gonna
stick to it no matter how obviously childish and ludicrous. The
first story was that he was trying to "shock us", as if anybody
would think a Mississippi white boy introducing a link to Obama
with a racial slur is shocking.

Mississippi doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

I'm talking about the state, not the river.

--
Ken Fortenberry

wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:



She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call
what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd
just call it bad humor.

Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much
less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey,
YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
R
i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony
or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand
of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us
liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word
isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of
course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the
most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by
the not-richard-pryors either.

What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a
lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year...

TC,
R
jeff


i admit i have no idea whether you are in fact right-wing. all i really
know about you is what i perceive, rightly or wrongly, from your
writings here...and, i have confessed to being less than an astute or
intelligent audience. however, i trust you did not overlook my
intentional use of the word "apparent".

i doubt i'm alone among most here in perceiving the majority of your
political and economic statements as having a "right-wing"
tilt...anymore than i doubt you are alone in your belief that i should
have learned more in my first year of law school...or life.

look at the web site you posted for the sandra b. thing. even you ought
to agree it is a "right-wing" site...and probably far on the right. you
seem to enjoy using articles and statements gleaned from such
places...so, you have an appearance of a certain characteristic.
contrary to some others, i did not mean it as a slander...some of my
best friends are right-wing republicans. G

jeff

wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:01:09 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

wrote:
http://media.newsbusters.org/stories...acks-manhattan

With "celebs" like these, Obama doesn't need enemies...

Sheesh,
R
facinating web site too...perhaps a bit right of the birchers though,
don't you think? jeezus, she's an outrageous, shock comedienne, who
says and does some wicked stuff. that you find it meaningful in any way
is kinda humorous. imo, she and you are simply jabbing at others'
sensibilities...you for political sport, her for show (and income).

Oh, I doubt she would or could influence the election very much if at
all, but other more visible and "mainstream" celebs can and will. I
don't find her act itself particularly meaningful, I find it indicative.
And I'd offer that in many cases, the influence will be to drive more
potential voters away from the candidate the celeb's pitch seems
intended to support than folks it will convince to vote for them.

TC,
R
jeff

why search and cite the lowest of celebs and web sites in support of
your claim? heck, you've got matt damon, tommy smothers, and barbara s
to work with! G

Frankly, I think only a small percentage of voters haven't yet made up
their minds, and they are the ones who will decide this thing. I have no
frickin idea what will motivate their votes, but i won't be surprised if
it's something stupid or knee-jerk. I'm with Maher on this one - our
voters are a scary crowd of folks in their decision-making process.

jeff

wrote:

Oh, I doubt she would or could influence the election very much if at
all, but other more visible and "mainstream" celebs can and will. ...

You repeat the same silly piffle here over and over in a
variety of different ways but it all comes down to the same
thing, "American voters are stupid but if you guys actually
call them stupid they're gonna vote GOP, so take *that*,
neener, neener, neener."

The GOP has put up a crazy old warmonger who chose a category
five moron from the snake-handling wing of the Republican party
as his running mate and all you want to do is gloat because the
American voter is so goddamn stupid they'll probably get elected.

Why do you hate America so much ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:22:07 -0400, Jeff wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:20:30 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT), riverman
wrote:



She's a comedian, with a propensity for shock humor. I wouldn't call
what she says 'racism' (or in this case, sexism or pro-semitism), I'd
just call it bad humor.

Hmmm...I'd call suggesting that "black men" would be interested in, much
less predisposed to, gang-raping someone pretty racist, but hey,
YMMV...IAC, what's that when compared to someone merely mentioning the
title of a record by a black man, right?

And there ya are,
R
i wasn't offended or bothered by your relatively lame attempt at irony
or satire (or whatever it was), anymore than i was at sandra b's brand
of outrageous humor. an apparent right-wing provocateur, poking at us
liberals and obama supporters by using a quotation containing the n-word
isn't necessarily or always racist. ...and richard pryor ... well, of
course, neither you nor sandra is richard pryor. but then, i'm not the
most sophisticated, intuitive, or informed audience for such attempts by
the not-richard-pryors either.

What makes you so sure I'm "right-wing?" And that's a hint...you're a
lawyer, and you should have learned about it first-year...

TC,
R
jeff


i admit i have no idea whether you are in fact right-wing. all i really
know about you is what i perceive, rightly or wrongly, from your
writings here...and, i have confessed to being less than an astute or
intelligent audience. however, i trust you did not overlook my
intentional use of the word "apparent".

i doubt i'm alone among most here in perceiving the majority of your
political and economic statements as having a "right-wing"
tilt...anymore than i doubt you are alone in your belief that i should
have learned more in my first year of law school...or life.

Oh, geezus. I didn't say you SHOULD have learned more in your first
year of law school. I said you DID learn about what I was hinting at:
ask questions at the appropriate time - you know, like before you assume
your client wasn't found standing over the body with a smoking .38
screaming "HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT, MOFO?!?!" and you find out he was when
the prosecutor asks him about it in front of the jury. I find it
startling that most folks around here never say, "I'm not sure what you
mean by that, so rather than ask, I'll just assume..." Is that enough
of a ****ing hint? Oh, OK, for the terminally-serious - G...

look at the web site you posted for the sandra b. thing. even you ought
to agree it is a "right-wing" site

No, I ought not agree with that...well, maybe I ought to, but I won't
because I cannot...because until I heard about what she said and Googled
it, with that being the first hit, I had never heard of the site and
know nothing about it. I read that one story, moved on to a couple of
other hits, and haven't been back to it. But if you and Dave S. say it
is, I'll take your word for it. IAC, I don't see what the political
leaning of the site, if any, would have to do with the things she said
and whoever/whatever quoted as saying. Heck, it had a link to a
YouTube video, so I doubt there was much room to twist her words one way
or the other.

...and probably far on the right. you
seem to enjoy using articles and statements gleaned from such
places...so, you have an appearance of a certain characteristic.
contrary to some others, i did not mean it as a slander...some of my
best friends are right-wing republicans. G

I'd offer that more of the things I post come from the "major news
outlets" (CNN, networks, AP, Reuters, etc.) than any other source. I'd
not call any of those "far on the right," but YMMV. If I post something
from a source such as whatever site the Sandra Bernhard piece was from,
chances are it was among the first Google hits on something I heard
about. I have no idea if Google leans right or left.

TC,
R

jeff