It's looking more and more like Palin and The Old Dude '08 and here's a reason...

On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:35:12 -0400, Jeff wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:22 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

American voter is so g**d*** stupid they'll probably get elected.

And jeff wrote:

I'm with Maher on this one - our voters are a scary crowd of folks
in their decision-making process.

I've said this before, but it's worth saying again. If this is the
typical Dem's view of the average American public, then they deserve
not to get elected. It's been this exact attitude that's lost them the
last two elections, which they should have both easily won, and if
they make it three in a row, maybe they'll finally do some navel
gazing. But if they persist in blaming the American voter as being to
stupid to vote for them, they deserve what they get.

Take care,

Jon.

Have you spent much time talking with folks of diverse backgrounds and
socioeconomic levels about their choices and the reasons for their
choices? Unlike Ken's comment, though I agree we have a terribly
uninformed electorate who seem to make decisions on the most superficial
level and often on single issues or even mistaken beliefs, my comment
was less direct and simply referenced how scary the decision-making
process has become. ...and it applies to voters of both major parties.
Look at the negative, superficial nature of the political campaigns.
It's all directed at sound-bite impulse buying. Why is that? Do you
think it's because either party regards voters as intelligent consumers
of such dogma?

McCain and Palin have made numerous demonstrably false statements in
their public statements about their positions and about Obama's. I am
amazed at the number of people I talk with who believe those statements
are true...they recite them drone-like.

And Obama has done the exact same thing, with folks reciting
drone-like...

A significant number think
offshore drilling is going to have an immediate beneficial impact on
their gas prices.

Because they will and did. Keep in mind how oil and gasoline prices are
set. The mere threat that offshore drilling would be opened up caused a
downward price move. What it will not do is have an immediate impact on
supply, but again, oil prices aren't set by supply and demand.

Recall the number of voters who believed Iraq had
responsibility for 9/11. Why is that?

I'm not so sure that the number of people who actually thought that is
the same as the number certain surveys claimed.

I doubt I'm the typical Dem. I'm pretty sure Ken isn't.

Please. You wanted Edwards, and then Obama. He wanted Obama. Hell,
even his own running mate said McCain would make a good Prez and Obama
wasn't qualified...well, until he got his dick slammed in the door, but
wound up on the ticket, and now, suddenly, Obama is Jesus on a donkey
and McCain isn't fit to shovel ****.

HTH,
R

jeff

wrote:


Please. You wanted Edwards, and then Obama. He wanted Obama.

hell...indeed...please, you're obviously confused.

Hell, even his own running mate said McCain would make a good Prez and Obama
wasn't qualified...well, until he got his dick slammed in the door, but
wound up on the ticket, and now, suddenly, Obama is Jesus on a donkey
and McCain isn't fit to shovel ****.

mccain isn't fit to shovel ****...but palin seems qualified. think
about it...

hth too...

jeff

"jeff miller" wrote in message
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mccain isn't fit to shovel ****...but palin seems qualified.

Whatever her technical skills, it seems to me she lacks the requisite
herculean physique.

Wolfgang
and then there's the whole issue of which way to shovel in the interest of
stable government.

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
Whatever her technical skills, it seems to me she lacks the requisite
herculean physique.

Wolfgang
and then there's the whole issue of which way to shovel in the interest of
stable government.
Having known and seen many a woman very capable of mucking stalls, I think
she is perfectly qualified to shovel ****. It may even be a preferable job
option for her, over being VP, given the current complexities......
Tom

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
Whatever her technical skills, it seems to me she lacks the requisite
herculean physique.

Wolfgang
and then there's the whole issue of which way to shovel in the interest
of stable government.

Having known and seen many a woman very capable of mucking stalls, I think
she is perfectly qualified to shovel ****. It may even be a preferable job
option for her, over being VP, given the current complexities......
Tom

Hm........28 hours. Oh well....

About 17 years ago (my how time flies!) I spent a year working at a "youth
ranch" in southeastern Missouri. The central tenet governing the
organization that ran this bizarre enterprise was some sort of garbled
half-notion that at risk youngsters could somehow be taught how to function
properly within a modern post-industrial society by constant and intense
exposure to horses and the pitifully self-deluded latter day "cowboy"
misfits who mistakenly thought they were smarter than their
charges......whether bi- or quadru- pedal. My affiliation with this outfit
necessarily resulted in a great deal of personal experience in shoveling
manure out of a horse barn, as well as witnessing others of all ages and
both sexes engaged in the same exercise. I guess I know about as much as
most folks, and more than most folks really need to, about the job
requirements and who (generally speaking) might be qualified.

Meanwhile.......

The adjective "herculean" is usually found affixed to the noun "task" or
some synonym therefor. It derives (indirectly) from the Romanized name of a
hero of Greek mythology, Hercules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules

who is famous for (among other things which need not concern us here) having
completed a series of monumental assignments......or tasks.....deemed to be
beyond the means of ordinary mortals. Thus, a "herculean" undertaking is
one of stupendous proportions, and a "herculean" physique is, by extension,
one which would allow its bearer to do things that most others would find
impossible. One of the tasks assigned to Hercules was the cleaning of the
Augean stables in a single day. Details are sketchy but it is safe to
presume that the job was of suitably herculean magnitude.

All of this, of course, is mythology and can thus be considered as extended
metaphor, allegory, trope or what have you. Not surprisingly, the metaphor
is frequently applied, whether directly or more obliquely, to many
situations to this day. That's what I did, above. I had thought the mere
use of "herculean" in a response to references to shoveling **** would make
it clear that Ms. Palin's literal qualifications for this particular
activity were not seriously in question and that something else was being
not so subtly suggested. I had further thought that the reference to "which
way to shovel in the interest of *stable* government" would clinch the
matter for those who still had doubts. To further clarify, for those who
STILL don't get it...

ALL natural human languages suffer to one degree or another from inherent
ambiguity. Ask any linguist......or any mathematician. However, this is
not necessarily ALWAYS bad news. Sometimes, very often in fact, ambiguity
is extremely useful. It makes possible a whole host of constructions which
would otherwise be either absolutely impossible or at least greatly
diminished. Poetry comes readily to mind. So does metaphor. Thus, "stable
government" might in some circumstances be taken as a reference to the sort
of government one might expect to emanate from a place inhabited for decades
by a succession of groups of horses' asses, a byproduct of which might
require periodic removal by one means or another. Naturally, simple hygiene
(as well as other beneficial outcomes) would require the services of someone
who was not only up to the "herculean" physical demands of the job at the
locale in question, which while not explicitly named here should be clear
enough, but also capable of remembering that efficiency (let alone other
considerations) requires shoveling the already present offending matter
out........and not adding more to it.

Wolfgang

"jeff miller" wrote in message
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mccain isn't fit to shovel ****...but palin seems qualified. think about
it...

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has there ever been a Hurricane Sara or a Hurricane Barrack?

mk5000




----- Original Message -----
From: "marika"
Newsgroups: alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: the woman or the man


Maybe not with Gustav on the way

"Hurricane expert says Rita will be second worst storm behind Katrina"
(Source: CBS News, 9/21/05)

Fort Collins, Colorado - His name is Dr. William Gray and he is
considered one of the world foremost experts on hurricanes and he
warns that "Rita" is going to be a mother of a storm.

Dr. Gray is at Colorado State University. He is considered a world-
wide authority on hurricanes and he says Hurricane Rita will be the
second worst storm he's seen in his lifetime, with Hurricane Katrina
being the first.

Dr. Gray predicted months ago that this hurricane season would be a
bad one and he predicts that we'll likely see one or two more major
storms before this season ends.

Dr. Gray says if Rita stays on its current path, it's likely the
storm will reach Category 4 strength with massive damage to oil
production, resulting in higher gas prices and potentially doing
about 100-billion dollars in damage.

Dr. Gray says he disagrees with other experts who say the power of
these storms is related to global warming. Dr. Gray says there is
simply no proof of that. He says 1933 was a very active season,
similar to this one. Dr. Gray says 1933 was a year with 21-named
storms.

Officials say there have been so many named storms this year; there
is a chance we could run out of designated names this year. It's
reported that has never happened before.