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Old October 8th, 2008, 12:40 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Scott Seidman
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Default Why is this getting no play??

Dave LaCourse wrote in
news
He's a genuine hero, Scott. Stop trying to make him out
to be anything else. You're better than that.


He's a hero, Dave, but we're talking about the judgement of a man who
wants to lead the free world.

Before Vietnam, he crashed an AD-6 into Corpus Christi Bay.
"Investigators determined that McCain was watching instruments in his
cockpit that indicated the position of his landing gear and had lost
track of his altitude and speed."

He ran his Skyraider into electrical wires in Spain. McCain himself said
this was because of "daredevil clowning".

He ejected from a T-2 in 1965 over Virginia, crashing the plane into the
woods. "The report found that McCain, then assigned to squadron VT-7 in
Meridian, Miss., had made several errors: He failed to switch the plane's
power system to battery backup, which "seriously jeopardized his survival
chances." His idea of landing on the drag strip was "viewed with concern
and is indicative of questionable emergency procedure.""

He crashed two planes and almost crashed a third before he ever saw
combat.

He probably wouldn't have still been flying by Vietnam if his father
weren't Mr. Big.

Perhaps this explains why less than 10 pages of his military record have
been released, when the full package is rumored to be hundreds of pages.

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH, but
asking why we don't know about McCain's early aviation problems is
questioning his heroism?




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Old October 8th, 2008, 01:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Dave LaCourse
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Default Why is this getting no play??

On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,

\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


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Old October 8th, 2008, 01:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Dry_Heat
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Default Why is this getting no play??


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,

\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama is
spewing.

Un ****in believable.


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Old October 8th, 2008, 04:09 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen
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"Dry_Heat" wrote in message
...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,

\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama is
spewing.

Un ****in believable.


No, it really not all that hard to believe that two hate mongers would
support one another.

I sure hope you and dave enjoy 8 years of Barack Obama, cause it sure looks
like it will come to fruition!

Op --McCain/MILF '08--


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Old October 9th, 2008, 05:28 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Calif Bill
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Default Why is this getting no play??


"Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...

"Dry_Heat" wrote in message
...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.


No, it really not all that hard to believe that two hate mongers would
support one another.

I sure hope you and dave enjoy 8 years of Barack Obama, cause it sure
looks like it will come to fruition!

Op --McCain/MILF '08--



If Obama gets in, he is not going to be there 8 years. He is clueless as
well as most of the government on how to stop the economic morass we are
entering. We are going to have a bad next 4 years and I do not see Obama
helping with his raise taxes and spending scenarios. He keeps saying
"Change". But the only change I see from him is he wants to the change the
POTUS title to him. What we need is a fiscal conservative. And the next
POTUS is not one. Cut government spending by at least 25%. Cut the
bureauracy by at least that much. With a Democrat POTUS and and a Democrat
Congress, katy bar the door on spending.


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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:19 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
DaveS
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On Oct 8, 9:28*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:37 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Calif Bill
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"DaveS" wrote in message
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On Oct 8, 9:28 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave

You are a dum fock. I said we need a fiscal conservative. Bush, and I did
not vote for him last time, was not a fiscal conservative. The RNC is very
right wing and not looking after the people. The DNC is extremely to the
left and they sure have not been doing anything to stem the flow of red ink
in the last year that they have had control of Congress. Why would you say
it is my team? I am a registered Democrat and JFK would be a Moderate
Republican these days. I am saying what the next POTUS and the Congress
should do. But neither of the two that are running is worth a crap.
McCain, a long term Senator. The same Senate that has even a lower rating
than Bush. Obama, a declared socialist in all his writings and actions up
until now. His proposals to cut taxes on 95% of the people (impossible, as
only 55% pay taxes in this country) and increase spending by
$800,000,000,000. And with a Pelosi House, there is going to be absolutely
no controls on spending. At least with two different parties in charge of
the proposing spending and the spending branches, our children and
grandchildren may have some money left after paying for yours and my
spending.


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Old October 8th, 2008, 06:26 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
riverman
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On Oct 8, 8:58*am, "Dry_Heat" wrote:


I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama is
spewing.



Now there's some irony for you.

--riverman
Sorry sir, your xenophobia is showing....
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:00 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Rick[_9_]
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Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,

\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick
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Old October 9th, 2008, 04:18 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:00:45 -0500, Rick wrote:

Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick


Are you sure? I mean, _100%_, and not, like, 99% or maybe 87.548% or
even perhaps 91.345%? Are you saying that you agree with every single
word, punctuation mark, the grammatical usage and every postulate
proposed for consideration?

HTH,
R
....****, I didn't even realize we were nominating things...
 




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