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  #51  
Old October 9th, 2008, 01:28 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 8, 8:58*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Worry about Israel, Scott. *You will hear more of them in the future
if Obama wins. *And it ain't gonna be good news.

Dave


David, Im just wondering if you are aware that the Israeli nuclear
stockpile is estimated to be at least 100 weapons, up to 400 weapons,
with way over 1000 delivery systems. Israel probably has more nukes
than all of Western Europe. Israel definitely has more Nukes than
China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined.

Do you really think that the Israelis are incapable of defending
themselves? I think you know or should know that they are armed to the
teeth and have much more capability than even most Israelis are aware
of. So why should Scott worry about Israel "if Obama wins" ? It is
very clear from experience that the Israelis would strike first if
they were seriously threatened. It is known that they alerted and
loaded for sure on at least one occasion.

Please, I know that if you were half awake during your sojourn in the
Navy, you already knew what I have just said. Just stick to the normal
slander please.

Dave
  #52  
Old October 9th, 2008, 01:50 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
...
I guess it's like art and porn - I can't define it, but I sure as hell
know it when I see it, and much like a nekkid Ms. Simpson, I enjoy
seeing it...the art and the porn as well as the understanding of
heroism, I mean. And neither you nor Dave "get it" when it comes to
heroism.

You can't define heroism because the word has lost all meaning.
When everyone who served in 'Nam, everyone in the military, the
fire department and the police force is a "hero" the word becomes
meaningless. Hell, Bill Ayers is in the news lately so I nominate
the Weathermen as true American heroes. They probably did more to
end the war in Vietnam than some of your more pedestrian heroes
like Martin Luther King Jr. et al. 1/2 :-)


I don't think that everyone who served in "'Nam" ("'Nam,"
Gracie...what, are you watching "Rambo" or something...?), everyone in
the military, the FD, PD, etc. are "heroes." In fact, a few are total,
complete, utter ****ups and criminals as far away from any rational
definition of "hero" as one could get. I do not think that Bill Ayers
is one, but I'm not sure he falls into the category of "bad guy" either.
MKL is marginally one, based on what I understand of his motives, good
and bad. John McCain is a "hero," John Kerry is not. ...


Well, thanks for clearing that up. It's nice to know, in those
moments of doubt, that we have right here on roff the renowned
"hero" expert Rick Dean.

--
Ken Fortenberry
  #53  
Old October 9th, 2008, 02:18 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:50:22 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote:
...
I guess it's like art and porn - I can't define it, but I sure as hell
know it when I see it, and much like a nekkid Ms. Simpson, I enjoy
seeing it...the art and the porn as well as the understanding of
heroism, I mean. And neither you nor Dave "get it" when it comes to
heroism.
You can't define heroism because the word has lost all meaning.
When everyone who served in 'Nam, everyone in the military, the
fire department and the police force is a "hero" the word becomes
meaningless. Hell, Bill Ayers is in the news lately so I nominate
the Weathermen as true American heroes. They probably did more to
end the war in Vietnam than some of your more pedestrian heroes
like Martin Luther King Jr. et al. 1/2 :-)


I don't think that everyone who served in "'Nam" ("'Nam,"
Gracie...what, are you watching "Rambo" or something...?), everyone in
the military, the FD, PD, etc. are "heroes." In fact, a few are total,
complete, utter ****ups and criminals as far away from any rational
definition of "hero" as one could get. I do not think that Bill Ayers
is one, but I'm not sure he falls into the category of "bad guy" either.
MKL is marginally one, based on what I understand of his motives, good
and bad. John McCain is a "hero," John Kerry is not. ...


Well, thanks for clearing that up. It's nice to know, in those
moments of doubt, that we have right here on roff the renowned
"hero" expert Rick Dean.


Yeah, heroes stand alone...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097501/

HTH,
R
  #54  
Old October 9th, 2008, 02:27 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:28:04 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Oct 8, 8:58*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Worry about Israel, Scott. *You will hear more of them in the future
if Obama wins. *And it ain't gonna be good news.

Dave


David, Im just wondering if you are aware that the Israeli nuclear
stockpile is estimated to be at least 100 weapons, up to 400 weapons,
with way over 1000 delivery systems. Israel probably has more nukes
than all of Western Europe. Israel definitely has more Nukes than
China, India, Pakistan, and North Korea combined.


Yeah, but you have any idea how much rocket fuel costs these days, even
wholesale? And I'm asking you, why would you want to shoot rockets? Why
can't you be like that nice Bobby Nussbaum and be a doctor or a lawyer?
Oh, no, you want to go and play with bombs...what respectable woman
would want that? Your father and I will never be grandparents...come
here, sit down, have a nosh and some coffee, maybe a little glass of
Manischewitz...look, I made a nice kugle...sit, sit, eat, eat, and we'll
talk...

HTH,
R
  #55  
Old October 9th, 2008, 04:00 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,

\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick
  #56  
Old October 9th, 2008, 04:18 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:00:45 -0500, Rick wrote:

Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick


Are you sure? I mean, _100%_, and not, like, 99% or maybe 87.548% or
even perhaps 91.345%? Are you saying that you agree with every single
word, punctuation mark, the grammatical usage and every postulate
proposed for consideration?

HTH,
R
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  #57  
Old October 9th, 2008, 04:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen
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"Rick" wrote in message
...
Dry_Heat wrote:

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.



AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick


Yes, well morons will flock together much like birds of a feather, only
birds are literally more intelligent than the three of you and 99.9999999%
of the religious right.

Op


  #58  
Old October 9th, 2008, 05:28 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Mr Opus McDopus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...

"Dry_Heat" wrote in message
...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
On 7 Oct 2008 23:40:13 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Cleland was a hero, too, Dave. Why was it OK to post mortem his PH,
\
Because he didn't EARN a PH. Perhaps Kerry can give him the "friendly
fire" ph he got, or the "rice in the buttocks" ph.

ALL Naval aviators are hot shoes. They couldn't and wouldn't be
pilots unless they were. There are countless stories about hotshoeing
pilots, and I've seen a few myself. Try landing an aircraft on a
little small patch of runway that is moving up and down and going
about 30 mph. Then try to do it at night. Obama would **** his pants
just being IN the aircraft, never mind piloting it. The question you
have to answer is, why did McCain volunteer for continued flights over
VN when his squadron was going home? Why would he volunteer to
continue to fly into harm's way? Ya think it could be because his
country comes first? What the **** has Obama done for this country?
Nada! Zippo! Zilch! He was associated with a pastor for 20 years who
said "God Damn America," and yet he remained in that church. His
mentor was a communist. He pals were domestic terrorists, his present
day advisors are crooks. His wife has never been proud to call
herself American. What has Obama done, Scott? WHAT? And you are
going to vote for this well spoken, untried, untrue, lying
professional politician? Un****inbelievable.

He's gonna be the next postus, so I hope to hell you can tell me WHY
he should be potus. His own VP choice said that McCain is able to
take the office but Obama "isn't ready". That was said by HIS VP
choice. Perhaps you should be voting for the Biden/Obama ticket. He
make no sense whatsoever the other way around. WHAT HAS HE DONE?

Dave


Dave

You are one of the few in this group that I have respect for.

I am appalled that others can't see through bull**** that Hussein Obama
is spewing.

Un ****in believable.


No, it really not all that hard to believe that two hate mongers would
support one another.

I sure hope you and dave enjoy 8 years of Barack Obama, cause it sure
looks like it will come to fruition!

Op --McCain/MILF '08--



If Obama gets in, he is not going to be there 8 years. He is clueless as
well as most of the government on how to stop the economic morass we are
entering. We are going to have a bad next 4 years and I do not see Obama
helping with his raise taxes and spending scenarios. He keeps saying
"Change". But the only change I see from him is he wants to the change the
POTUS title to him. What we need is a fiscal conservative. And the next
POTUS is not one. Cut government spending by at least 25%. Cut the
bureauracy by at least that much. With a Democrat POTUS and and a Democrat
Congress, katy bar the door on spending.


  #59  
Old October 9th, 2008, 06:19 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 8, 9:28*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Have you been sleeping for the last 8 years? Your team DOUBLED the
total deficit during that time. No one who actually followed current
events would be so shameless to have said what you said and expect to
be taken seriously. Bill, seriously, your stuff sounds like it came
out of some time warp.

Dave
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:40 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 8, 8:00*pm, Rick wrote:
Un ****in believable.


* AMEN!!!!1 I will second that 100%

Rick- Hide quoted text -


Well Rick, why don't you go back in the archive and see what these
same characters were saying, or go 4 years back and see that they were
spouting the same freaky ideology and some were smearing McCain at
that time! Questioning his heroism, belittling his imprisonment. And
NOW, after these geniuses were wrong at EVERY turn, we on ROFF are
treated to the same crock of barely literate right-wing blather ****,
you say. . .

AMEN!!!!!! 1 i WILL SECOND THAT 100%

I have to say that you must hate this country a great deal. Or perhaps
you were in long-term rehab, drunk, with a truly wonderful woman, or
maybe you are just of low intelligence, and as a result can not be
expected to be a responsible, contributing citizen of a first world
country If evolution is to be believed your kind will disappear.

Dave
**** like this can spoil a sunny day
 




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