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Old October 10th, 2008, 10:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote:

Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling
press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator
Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?),

“I’m not saying he’s dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in
terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two
different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and
just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about
when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still — has
there been an association continued since ’02 or ’05, I know I’ve
read a couple different stories. I think it’s relevant.”

g

- JR


Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with
her answer?

TC,
R
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Old October 10th, 2008, 04:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote:

Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling
press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator
Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?),

"I'm not saying he's dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in
terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two
different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and
just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about
when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still - has
there been an association continued since '02 or '05, I know I've
read a couple different stories. I think it's relevant."

g

- JR


Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with
her answer?

TC,
R


richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell
out of me (as they say down in rowan county).

truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you
would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours,
daily, ad infinitum.

politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use
the english language as a method of communication.

yfitons
wayno


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Old October 10th, 2008, 05:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Wayne Harrison wrote:
terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two


Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with
her answer?

TC,
R



richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell
out of me (as they say down in rowan county).

truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you
would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours,
daily, ad infinitum.

politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use
the english language as a method of communication.

yfitons
wayno



yeah, there is that, but i reckon the milf-voters don't really care
whether she can speak...



jeff
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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:19 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 10, 8:26*am, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:
R


richard, i swear, you just won't do. *your response just tickles the hell
out of me (as they say down in rowan county).

truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you
would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours,
daily, ad infinitum.

*politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use
the english language as a method of communication.

yfitons
wayno- Hide quoted text -


Ditto on Wayne's comment. And . . .

Richard, Alaskan politics and corruption make your part of the country
and NJ where I started look if not squeaky clean, at least not in the
basement. That, and her fibs, not just her words per se, is what gives
the belly laughs in the NW to her candidacy. Sarah as a "reformer?"
All things are relative but Sarah, or frankly any Alaska politician of
the last few decades, are walking ethical time bombs, D or R.

The process of building up a Resource/Govt largess based State has
always been messy. Words like "conflict of interest" and
"conservative" just do not have the same meaning up there. Folks who
don't know that may know Alaska from the tour ships but not much else.
Alaskans as a group are some great people, and fun, and Alaskan women
are in a class by themselves if one appreciates strong, athletic women
as I do. But clean politics? NFW.

She is getting a bad wrap on some of the regional speech patterns.
Folks in the PNW say "You Betcha" all the time. And "fer sure," and
some Chinook jargon words like "skookum" etc, sometimes we use flat
Native American inflections and word order, and lots of hard "R"s
etc.. That is how we often talk to one another and I would guess that
she is a bit more that way because she hasn't traveled much out of the
PNW.

But who ever came up with Palin, whoever was supposed to vett her for
the Rs, deserves to be shot by the Rs. And on her and her husband's
ultimate ethical demise . . . I will give odds for a modest bet.

Dave
The days of drunk 14 year old Native American prostitutes rolling
around in the bar floor sawdust of Juneau during the legislative
session/cum Mardi gras, may be over, but crooks still abound in the
Chambers who rue the little progress thats been made.
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Old October 12th, 2008, 08:10 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article
unications, Wayne
Harrison writes
politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use
the english language as a method of communication.


Now /that/ I understand !
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Old October 12th, 2008, 09:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:26:26 -0400, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:01:50 -0400, JR wrote:

Sarah Palin finally took questions on Tuesday from her traveling
press corps on her campaign plane. Asked if she thought Senator
Obama was dishonest (about Ayers, apparently, but who knows?),

"I'm not saying he's dishonest, but in terms of judgment, in
terms of being able to answer a question forthrightly, it has two
different parts to this. The judgment and the truthfulness and
just being able to answer very candidly a simple question about
when did you know him, how did you know him, is there still - has
there been an association continued since '02 or '05, I know I've
read a couple different stories. I think it's relevant."

g

- JR


Um, OK. So what, in your opinion, is particularly amusing or wrong with
her answer?

TC,
R


richard, i swear, you just won't do. your response just tickles the hell
out of me (as they say down in rowan county).

truth is, if you could collect a similar statement from sen. obama, you
would be dismantling the damn thing on roff for a minimum of three hours,
daily, ad infinitum.


I disagree. I've defended both Dems and GOPers for gaffs that were
blown WAY out of proportion by the media and/or the opposition. Is her
statement as eloquent as it could be? Nope. Do I understand what she
is trying to communicate? Yes. Do I think that you and others
understand what she is trying to communicate? Yes. And besides, nobody
has been able to get an answer, eloquent or otherwise, out of Obama
about Ayers to dismantle, anyway...

politics aside, the lady is simply an utter failure in her efforts to use
the english language as a method of communication.


Well, granted, she isn't a lawyer or used-car salesman or Alan Greenspan
or something...yeah, yeah, yeah, I know - it depends on what the meaning
of "isn't," isn't...

yfitons
wayno


And I know you've read enough depos to know that often, a transcript of
the depo of a generally-eloquent person often does not eloquently convey
what those present clearly understood as being conveyed.

Here's the answer:

"I expected that at some stage we'd have to give it. Now, I'm not sure
that we expected that it would come up in the way that it did. But it
was unrealistic to anticipate that, during the course of this campaign,
if not now then certainly in the general election, that this was not
going to be an issue that had to be addressed.

But it's nothing that's going to be unique to the next presidency.
It's been something that presidents throughout our history have or have
not dealt with, but it's always been there. "

Guess the question and the person being questioned - was it Palin on the
economy or McCain on "The Keating 5?" NOTE- the next presidency was
substituted for a word that would provide a clue to the identity of the
speaker

YFCITGS,
R






























....or was neither, but rather, Obama when asked if Rev. Wright and his
race was going to be an issue in the campaign
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Old October 12th, 2008, 09:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 12, 1:05*pm, wrote:

Fairness Hmmmm.
So, what do you think of the campaign the Dark Ops branch or the RNC
has been running for a year now in Southern Florida, targeting elderly
Jewish registered Democrats with anti Obama messages saying that he is
an Arab, a secret Muslim, and a Jew hater, who plans to destroy
Israel?

Do you think the Justice Department should be looking into this
"anonymous" campaign?

Dave
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Old October 12th, 2008, 10:44 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:31:16 -0700 (PDT), DaveS
wrote:

On Oct 12, 1:05*pm, wrote:

Fairness Hmmmm.
So, what do you think of the campaign the Dark Ops branch or the RNC
has been running for a year now in Southern Florida, targeting elderly
Jewish registered Democrats with anti Obama messages saying that he is
an Arab, a secret Muslim, and a Jew hater, who plans to destroy
Israel?

Do you think the Justice Department should be looking into this
"anonymous" campaign?


Yes. They spend too much time talking to nappy-headed Nazi homo hos
about their boyfriends, anyway...

I'd suggest you give Special Agent Vlasic a call post haste...tell him
you've got a bit of a pickle for him...Kosher, that is...

HTH,
R

Dave

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Old October 13th, 2008, 07:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Oct 12, 2:44*pm, wrote:

You avoid the question. This dirty campaign is a major element in the
set of Republican darkside projects targeted on this election cycle.
The opposing effort is the "Schlepping to Florida" effort led by, of
all people Sarah SIlverstein, the dirty mouthed comedienne. Today was
a kickoff day for younger voters to contact their Florida resident
registered Democrat Jewish parents and Grandparents, and counter the
Republican financed campaign spreading tales that Obama is an Arab,
secret Muslim, Jew hater, who wants to destroy Israel. The racist
Republican campaign is estimated to have influenced the vote of about
12% of their elderly Jewish targets so far. The hate campaign has been
operating for about a year now, pretty much under the radar, and the
Democratic response is just getting tooled up. Sarah scares me.

Supposedly the anti-Obama hate campaign is "anonymous," but that is a
joke. Except for a short period after Nixon, the Republican Party has
maintained a permanent set of dirty project contractors. Funding
usually is well hidden with a few notable exposures such as Tom
Delay's "youth charity" fund, exposed when he tried to also use it
for funding some gala parties at the 2004 convention. Pieces of the
Abramoff payoffs appear to have ended up in some of the dirty projects
targeted on reducing African American voting, and over the years funds
from techically legal right-wing operatives like those of Richard
Mellon Scaife and groups like the Coors foundations have made it onto
the filings of cut-out groups thought to fund racist and voter
intimidation projects designed to help Republican candidates, or hurt
Democrats.

I do not think that John McCain likes the racist parts of these
projects but he wants to win and the dirty projects are what's given
the GOP the winning margins in many elections. I also believe that
most State and local Republican Parties do not have dirty tricks
groups or projects. I do believe that the majority of this activity is
directed at the national level, from the RNC, with a very good system
of cut-outs and fronts to confuse their origins.

One rumor has it that one of the contractors on the Jewish Elderly
Democrat project in Florida has inadvertently hired some KKK figures,
or a KKK data base or some dastardly thing like that. Sounds like
wishful thinking to me. With any luck this thing will blow up in the
RNC's face, but so far they are winning the dirty wars. Watch Florida.
As near as I can tell, the Democratic Party has nothing to compare to
the Republican Darkside (sometimes referred to as "the rat****ers" in
the old days), But I sometimes wished the Democrats did.

Dave
 




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