Why is this getting no play??

Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:21:11 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:


...and so, my vote is for Jo's retirement. excellent!! an added purpose
for my vote ...and one that will actually benefit your family too! g


And perhaps we can wander down your way and do some salt. d;o)



anytime... however, the fishing i'm doing is not as easily done as you
might imagine.

i'm at harkers island now with friends...but it's a bit windy and rainy
today, so lazing about. we've caught puppy drum, flounder, blues, and
spanish. lizard fish (aka "preacher's d*cks") have been
over-abundant...g... false albacore are beginning to show, but not
the blitz we'll experience in a few weeks.

jeff (earnestly hoping for jo's retirement)

"jeff miller" wrote in message
m...
Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:21:11 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:


...and so, my vote is for Jo's retirement. excellent!! an added purpose
for my vote ...and one that will actually benefit your family too! g


And perhaps we can wander down your way and do some salt. d;o)



anytime... however, the fishing i'm doing is not as easily done as you
might imagine.

i'm at harkers island now with friends...but it's a bit windy and rainy
today, so lazing about.

jefe: i plan on rolling in to harker's about cocktail hour on sunday.
you'll be at the rental house, i assume...

awh

DaveS wrote:


So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? Or that he
might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney?
Stop talking silly.

You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing
intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy.
Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political
beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach,
they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no
one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own
blood.

I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way
I do. And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape
right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their
threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The
assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing
politics in this country.

Dave
Old Progressive Hot Head

No its about being able to look at history and the current state of
the country.. It has nothing to do with Right-wing anything.. It has
everything to do with the fact that there are a lot of those in this
country ( however wrong they are ) that will not sit for a black
president. I personally don't care if they are black, white, purple of
anything there of... I married a minority and see no colors in people..
But there are groups out there that will not rest till he was dead if
he was elected pres..

Ya know, Obama would never be able to get a job with the FBI or Secret
service just for being associated with a known domestic terrorist, but
he can become the President of US. Go figure...

And how about Obama's people... The criminals that pushed us into this
economic nightmare on Wall St....


Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae.
Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing
discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities.
At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, ' Raines,
who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence
that it
wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that 'mistakes
were
made' and saying he would assume responsi bi lity as he had earlier
promised.
News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from
regulators to
shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company's books ran
afoul of generally accepted accounting prin ciples for four years .'
Fannie Mae
had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.

Raines left with a 'golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits.
The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the
accounting scandal
became clear. http: //housingdoom. com/2006/ 12/18/fannie- charges/ ..

Where is Raines now?

Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor..


Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae.
Howard 'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies
that would
ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English -
He was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that,
'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate
oversight to key
control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,'

On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice
Department to investigate
his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress
in October 2004
when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income
statement to achieve
management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the
company's board of
directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings
to trigger bonuses.
Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004

Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

Tim Howard? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama


Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later
forced from his
position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing
Enterprise Oversight's
May 2006 re por t on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae,
and you'll see some
interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae
had hidden a substantial
amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it
was between $6 million
and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.' Johnson is currently
under investigation for
taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae..

Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.

JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

Jim Johnson? Johnson Hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's vice presidential search committee...



IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE
- THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall
Street ?

Yup, Having Obama as Prez will make a big difference for the USA...
Now that is change all right...

Wayne Harrison wrote:

"jeff miller" wrote in message
m...

Dave LaCourse wrote:


On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:21:11 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:



...and so, my vote is for Jo's retirement. excellent!! an added purpose
for my vote ...and one that will actually benefit your family too! g


And perhaps we can wander down your way and do some salt. d;o)



anytime... however, the fishing i'm doing is not as easily done as you
might imagine.

i'm at harkers island now with friends...but it's a bit windy and rainy
today, so lazing about.


jefe: i plan on rolling in to harker's about cocktail hour on sunday.
you'll be at the rental house, i assume...

awh



perhaps...if not, the door will be open. as the last one appearing, you
had default choice on beds...so you'll be sharing a room with jim. g
it's the room with two beds on the first floor... bring your ear plugs.
joe and i chose the floor upstairs rather than that empty bed...(we're
each victims of PTJD - post traumatic jim disorder - and haven't your
stamina or whatever innoculation you received).

the house is great...much better than expected, except the oven isn't
working, so you won't be able to bake cookies or anything. no need to
pack your usual baking ingredients or special utensils.

oh yeah...don't park on the grass. for some reason, the ayatollah of
pintail drive has harsh punishment for lawn transgressors.

.... look forward to seeing you again...

jeff

Rick wrote:

DaveS wrote:


So are you tee hee implying that someone will kill him? Or that he
might go hunting with "Sure shot" Cheney?
Stop talking silly.

You know I have put up with vaguely threatening right-wing
intimidators all my life. Ive pledged myself to a new personal policy.
Here it is: Next time someone threatens me physically for my political
beliefs, no matter how cutesy they put it, and they are within reach,
they are going to get the best smack I can deliver. I have found no
one who didn't get much less threatening at the sight of their own
blood.

I know a lot of people with progressive politics who feel the same way
I do. And I know a lot of fat ass-ed, pain-pill abusing, out of shape
right-wing BSers who think no one will react violently to their
threats, or that no one else in the room might be armed. The
assassination of Obama would be followed by the end of right-wing
politics in this country.

Dave
Old Progressive Hot Head


No its about being able to look at history and the current state of the
country.. It has nothing to do with Right-wing anything.. It has
everything to do with the fact that there are a lot of those in this
country ( however wrong they are ) that will not sit for a black
president. I personally don't care if they are black, white, purple of
anything there of... I married a minority and see no colors in people..
But there are groups out there that will not rest till he was dead if
he was elected pres..

Ya know, Obama would never be able to get a job with the FBI or Secret
service just for being associated with a known domestic terrorist, but
he can become the President of US. Go figure...

And how about Obama's people... The criminals that pushed us into this
economic nightmare on Wall St....


Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae.
Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when
auditing
discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities.
At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, ' Raines,
who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence
that it
wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that 'mistakes
were
made' and saying he would assume responsi bi lity as he had earlier
promised.
News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from
regulators to
shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company's books
ran
afoul of generally accepted accounting prin ciples for four years .'
Fannie Mae
had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.

Raines left with a 'golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits.
The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the
accounting scandal
became clear. http: //housingdoom. com/2006/ 12/18/fannie- charges/ ..

Where is Raines now?

Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor..


Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae.
Howard 'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies
that would
ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English -
He was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that,
'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate
oversight to key
control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,'

On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice
Department to investigate
his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress
in October 2004
when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income
statement to achieve
management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the
company's board of
directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings
to trigger bonuses.
Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004

Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

Tim Howard? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama


Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later
forced from his
position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing
Enterprise Oversight's
May 2006 re por t on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae,
and you'll see some
interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae
had hidden a substantial
amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it
was between $6 million
and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.' Johnson is currently
under investigation for
taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae..

Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.

JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

Jim Johnson? Johnson Hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was
selected to run Obama's vice presidential search committee...



IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE
- THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall
Street ?

Yup, Having Obama as Prez will make a big difference for the USA... Now
that is change all right...






jeezus, is there some special e-mail list y'all get on for the purpose
of concocting and disseminating that tired stuff??

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:57:48 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Bottomline Louie, you can't tell a damn thing about a man's
character by looking at how much, or how little, he donates
to charity.

Really? ...

Really.

If you had half a brain you'd use this website:

http://www.massresources.org/massach...service_d.html

Get your friend under the bridge some real help, that's what
government is for you know. I'm sure the state of Massachusetts
can come up with something better than poop baggies. But, you're
a real sweetheart for giving him poop baggies, really you are.

He's been that route, Ken. He's received very little help from the
"government". All the help he is now getting is from charitable
giving. Period. His wife is trying to get on SSI. You don't
disappoint; I figured you would denigrate the plastic bag thingy. It
is all he has and you could give a **** (pun intended). Perhaps you
could hit up Biden for a little money.

Dave

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:28:19 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

jeff (earnestly hoping for jo's retirement)

Not as much as I am. d;o)

Got an e-mail from Waldo about doing the salt. I was planning on
going south this winter, but with the drop in the market, I doubt I'll
be going. Might wander down your way. We'll see....

Dave

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:01:20 -0400, jeff miller
wrote:

(we're
each victims of PTJD - post traumatic jim disorder - and haven't your
stamina or whatever innoculation you received).

I suffered from that for several nights, topped off with Peter
Charles' nocturnal rhythms.

Dave

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"Calif Bill" wrote in
:

Obama will probably be the next POTUS. And we are screwed as a
country. We are screwed with McCain, but even more so with Obama.




It's going to take big talent to screw us any more than we're screwed
right
now.


--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

And whose fault is it? Do not regurgitate it is Bush's fault. Give me the
reasons. The Congress has been Democrat controlled for the past year. They
did nothing about the coming meltdown. Fact is they went against regulating
F$F. Part of this is a carry over from the Dot.bomb meltdown. Greenspan,
probably the worst Fed Chairman ever, freed up way too much money after he
let the unbridled enthusiasm in the stock market get way out of control.
Plus the SEC and Congress let the "Credit Swaps" really go uncontrolled.
$67 trillion in "Credit Swaps". What is that about 6 times our GDP? Enough
blame to go around that we should toss every Congress Critter out on their
ass without their excess pensions. But, no we are going to have 1 of the
Congress Critters as our next POTUS. We have met the enemy and it is us.

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
Honest? Give me a break. Look up plagiarism.


in a 30-plus year career, all anyone can STILL dig up is one plagerized
paper, and speech. You should be so honest.....
Tom


Dig a little deeper. He is protected. He is a Senator. Look at how
Congress protects their own. Jefferson, gets caught using the National
Guard to retrieve $90k from his freezer and gets chairmanship of the
committee that controls those who would look into it.