Why is this getting no play??

On Oct 11, 10:38*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message

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If it wasn't for all the food pantries around the state, many people
would go hungry. *No one starves to death, but they do go hungry.
Almost all of our clients are on welfare, but that is not enough.
They are all getting aid from the state in some way or form.

this has veered WAY off the original topic, but this is a valuable
observation nonetheless. Food pantries and similar missions are suffering a
two-sided problem at the moment. Far more folks are showing up, and
donations have dropped in recent months, presumably due to economic
conditions. Liberal, conservative or whatever, anyone who can, should donate
what they can to these efforts. Many of your countrymen depend on these
places........now, I'll get off my soapbox.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Doubtless true, at least to an extent, but as usual you simply fail to
see the obvious. Presumably a liar is more susceptible to liars? Or
mayhap simply assumes that others also lie? You should be asking
"Why?", and "How can this be changed?".

It would seem to many observers that you (collective), are not looking
for a president, but for a messiah. You will be disappointed, there
are no messiahs. Even if there were, crucifying them would not help
you.

The only people who can change things are YOU,( collective) with your
own behaviour, not what you expect or hope of others, and certainly
not by denigrating, defaming, or abusing them.

You have to want to help others, not just yourself, in the certain
knowledge that helping others also helps you. Although of course you
must try and ensure your own security before you can help others.
Wanting to help is useless if you can not do it, you must not only
have the will but also the means.

The effort some of you have expended here, in less than worthy
endeavours, might well have resulted in some amelioration of various
problems, had you only directed it in the correct manner.

Soapboxes are notoriously rickety constructions, unless they happen to
be full of soap, which you can then distribute to the "great
unwashed", which you might be surprised to discover are merely your
fellow men, who do not share your good fortune.

wrote in message
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Doubtless true, at least to an extent, but as usual you simply fail to
see the obvious. Presumably a liar is more susceptible to liars? Or
mayhap simply assumes that others also lie? You should be asking
"Why?", and "How can this be changed?".

why would you assume I do not ask those questions? Meanwhile, people need
the help NOW, and it is possible both to campaign for enlightened change(as
I do) and
help out via available charity(as I do), simultaneously.
Tom

On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:38:17 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

this has veered WAY off the original topic, but this is a valuable
observation nonetheless. Food pantries and similar missions are suffering a
two-sided problem at the moment. Far more folks are showing up, and
donations have dropped in recent months, presumably due to economic
conditions. Liberal, conservative or whatever, anyone who can, should donate
what they can to these efforts. Many of your countrymen depend on these
places........now, I'll get off my soapbox.

Actually, Tom, we have seen little growth in the number of clients.
It's pretty steady - about 125 - 150 people a day, three days a week.
This is going back about 2 1/2 years. The number of donations has not
slackened either. We get left-over bread, deserts, "fresh" veggies
and fruits from the local super markets. Very little from FDA, and we
buy the rest of the stuff. Cereal costs $0.17/pound. We get lots of
damaged goods - dented cans, boxes open, etc. We are in the process
of buying frozen turkeys for Thanksgiving and Christmas. They will
cost about $0.87/pound. We will buy about 500 of them.
Unfortunately, only families of three or more will get them.

Dave

On Oct 11, 11:04*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Unfortunately, only families of three or more will get them.

Dave

A real shame, true happiness is a frozen turkey.

Ah well, at least you are thinking about it, and not just spewing
political ****e.

On Oct 11, 2:04*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Just a comment/question.
In Washington we have a Statewide food umbrella org called Northwest
Harvest which collects and distributes "18 million pounds of food each
year to nearly 300 food banks and meal programs in 36 counties across
Washington."

www.northwestharvest.org

Isn't there a similar organization is Mass.? We have a pretty large Ag
sector but I would have thought there would be something similar in
other states.

Dave