Lost you FlyRod to the airlines??

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 05:57:11 GMT, rw wrote:

Greg Pavlov wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 00:52:36 GMT, rw
wrote:


Check out this photo:

http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/web/Surfs_Up.jpg



Provided that the photo is legitimate, sea kayakers say
that the "shark" is actually a dolphin.

Some do, but some others don't. In any case, it's a ****ing amazing photo.

I'd have shat my wetsuit either way...

/daytripper (even if that was, say, a gigantic kipper snack ;-)

"rw" wrote in message
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Check out this photo:.....

Interesting photo. Copyrighted, too, I see. Was that used with prior
permission?

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
Interesting photo. Copyrighted, too, I see. Was that used with prior
permission?

I was actually giving rw points for leaving the copyright info intact. Most
versions I've seen have that cropped or edited off, including the photo on
the Urban Legends reference page (http://www.snopes.com/photos/surfer.asp).

Consensus seems to be it was a bottlenose dolphin, though the logic on the
UL page is a bit short of conclusive.

Joe F.

About every other trip out, I'm treated to a pair of porpoises swimming by
at close range. Last time, they passed by within ten feet of me as I stood
about mid-thigh deep. Beautiful to see and I have to wonder at their
repeated appearances. However, once they appear, the chance of hooking
anything is blown for quite a while.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Darkstar

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm

"rb608" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
Interesting photo. Copyrighted, too, I see. Was that used with prior
permission?

I was actually giving rw points for leaving the copyright info intact.
Most
versions I've seen have that cropped or edited off, including the photo on
the Urban Legends reference page
(http://www.snopes.com/photos/surfer.asp).


Giving points is nice, but Wolfie's insinuation is correct. Including the
copyright isn't enough, even if the picture is posted on other sites (its
probably posted there illegally.) You need explicit permission from the
copyright holder to use the image, or even to link to it on another (even
illegal) site. Here is a readable site about copyright law:
http://www.education-world.com/a_curr/curr280a.shtml.

Since the photographer is selling copies of the image, my guess is that he
wouldn't give permission for it to be used on rw's webpage. I'm not gonna
tell or anything g, but your response showed a common misconception about
copyright law.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
Since the photographer is selling copies of the image, my guess is that he
wouldn't give permission for it to be used on rw's webpage. I'm not gonna
tell or anything g, but your response showed a common misconception
about
copyright law.

Actually, I knew that it is incorrect to use the image w/out permission (I
buy a lot of images in my job); I only meant that Steve had at least
acknolwedged who he stole it from. g

Joe F.

"rb608" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
Since the photographer is selling copies of the image, my guess is
that he
wouldn't give permission for it to be used on rw's webpage. I'm
not gonna
tell or anything g, but your response showed a common
misconception
about
copyright law.

Actually, I knew that it is incorrect to use the image w/out
permission (I
buy a lot of images in my job); I only meant that Steve had at least
acknolwedged who he stole it from. g

Joe F.

FWIW, I interpreted your message the same way you did.......and what
are the odds that we're BOTH wrong?

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
Since the photographer is selling copies of the image, my guess is
that he
wouldn't give permission for it to be used on rw's webpage. I'm
not gonna
tell or anything g, but your response showed a common
misconception
about
copyright law.

Actually, I knew that it is incorrect to use the image w/out
permission (I
buy a lot of images in my job); I only meant that Steve had at least
acknolwedged who he stole it from. g

Joe F.

FWIW, I interpreted your message the same way you did.......and what
are the odds that we're BOTH wrong?



Probably much higher than either of us is willing to admit.

--riverman
(unless, of course, I'm wrong....)

"riverman" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
Since the photographer is selling copies of the image, my
guess is
that he
wouldn't give permission for it to be used on rw's webpage.
I'm
not gonna
tell or anything g, but your response showed a common
misconception
about
copyright law.

Actually, I knew that it is incorrect to use the image w/out
permission (I
buy a lot of images in my job); I only meant that Steve had at
least
acknolwedged who he stole it from. g

Joe F.

FWIW, I interpreted your message the same way you did.......and
what
are the odds that we're BOTH wrong?



Probably much higher than either of us is willing to admit.

Hm......actually, I was responding to Joe, so........

--riverman
(unless, of course, I'm wrong....)

could be.

Wolfgang

"riverman" wrote in message ...

probably posted there illegally.) You need explicit permission from the
copyright holder to use the image, or even to link to it on another (even

I found it interesting that the UL site (which seems to have copied and
cropped the original) actually included a link to the photographer's site
that says on its front page:

"All photos are property of and Registered Copyright of Kurt Jones.
Use of any image including downloading, copying, or manipulating is
PROHIBITED !! Violators will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law."

Maybe they obtained permission but I doubt it...anyways the photographer
himself has the full explanation at:

http://www.surfshooter.com/DolphinInfo.html

Jon.