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![]() "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !! it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by Nov.4....g Tom |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .. . Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !! it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by Nov.4....g Tom Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." TC, R |
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On Nov 6, 9:56*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .. . Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !! it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by Nov.4....g * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." TC, R Define a 'landslide'. http://tinyurl.com/55x7a8 --riverman |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:04:21 -0800 (PST), riverman
wrote: On Nov 6, 9:56*pm, wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:42:04 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .. . Yoo hoo, calling rdean, where arrrrrrrrrrre you ? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !! it's not like someone didn't tell him that it might turn into a landslide by Nov.4....g * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." TC, R Define a 'landslide'. http://tinyurl.com/55x7a8 Well, look at like this - looking at it from the "mandate" side (which isn't the actual election via Electors) there were roughly 120 million votes cast and two states, New York and California, accounted for a little over 4 million, or roughly half the difference, and 6 populous "Dem" states (states that were almost certainly going Dem regardless) CA, NY, PA, NJ, Mass., and Ill., account for most of the difference. The outcome would have been the same whether 3 people in each had voted, 2 Obama, 1 McCain or 30,000,000, 20 mil to 10 mil. I guess one might say Obama has a "mandate" from the people who were going to vote Dem regardless, but... On the Electoral side, 7 states with a combined total of about 600,000 votes difference that would have put the election the other way. All had extremely high minority turnout, such that it appears to have either swung the election or contributed significantly to it. Is this "bad?" That's in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but I must say and I would say all rational people would agree that _IF_ the primary reason for those votes were FOR mere skin color, that's not "good," just as I would say and all rational people would agree that votes AGAINST mere skin color are "bad" - either way, it's racist. Obama essentially used the "vote for a brother" strategy in several states - what would you think if McCain had used a "don't vote for the darkie" strategy? It's the same thing - do or don't do based on skin color. IAC, given that a relative few voters in a relative few states "made the election," I'd say it isn't "a landslide" and further, given that in popular vote, the numbers are very concentrated, I'd say it isn't "a mandate by the people." Nothing in the above should be construed to take away from the fact that Obama won and clearly so, but it simply isn't, objectively, "a landslide" or "a mandate." HTH, R --riverman |
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On Nov 6, 9:18*am, wrote:
Oh, you mean they did not use the "Don't let the darkie vote strategy," and the "don't vote for the darkie" strategies? (Fibb meter overload) And what was all that stuff that was being made of the Obama's knckle wrap etc.? Richard, Richard, Richard When has the dominant party not run the "fear the darkie" strategy, primarily in the South, and Southern midwest.? Dave |
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![]() wrote in message ... Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is defined as a plus-125 or better margin. Damned close, actually...... Tom |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:27:15 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote: wrote in message .. . Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is defined as a plus-125 or better margin. Damned close, actually...... Tom Hey, anyone can define "landslide" as they choose because there is no real definition, but the numbers simply aren't in the range and distribution to indicate what most objective observers would call "a landslide" or even "a mandate." By all means, it was a clear victory, which is a very good thing, but I'd not get carried away. TC, R |
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On Nov 7, 9:41*am, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:27:15 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote: wrote in message .. . Um, you might want to really review the numbers - it was hardly "a landslide." I think I said 6% or so popular vote edge, EV would be a landslide, which is defined as a plus-125 or better margin. Damned close, actually...... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom Hey, anyone can define "landslide" as they choose because there is no real definition, but the numbers simply aren't in the range and distribution to indicate what most objective observers would call "a landslide" or even "a mandate." *By all means, it was a clear victory, which is a very good thing, but I'd not get carried away. TC, R Oh I don't know that any of us are in a position to determine what "most observers" would call it. But I do know that, in the lack of a legal or even popular definition of what a 'landslide' is, your claim that it is not one is as valid as anyone elses. Which is just how you like it. :-) --riverman (By the way, I call it a 'landslide' AND a 'mandate'. Prove me wrong. bseg) |
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