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Old November 14th, 2008, 12:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Peaceful Bill wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:



I've heard stories about Conservation officers checking for barbs in
barbless only areas by sticking the point through a stocking and
seeing how it comes out. It would be much harder for a bent-over barb
to pass this test.

I don't know if this is real or rumour.



On the tailwaters of Norfork Lake in the C&R area (Norfork River), F&G
checks with paper. Bent barbs often catch on the paper. Even when
barbs that are broken off by twisting, they could leave a burr than can
catch on paper. A friend of mine got a ticket even though he clearly
had the barb bent down because it caught on the paper.


Do you mean to say that they didn't confiscate all his gear and his rig
and haul him off to jail? That's the way I've heard the legend goes. :-)

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Old November 14th, 2008, 12:51 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote in
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Do you mean to say that they didn't confiscate all his gear and his rig
and haul him off to jail? That's the way I've heard the legend goes. :-)


How long before you get up to the point with the bloody hook hanging from
the door handle?


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Old November 14th, 2008, 03:37 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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rw wrote:
Peaceful Bill wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:



I've heard stories about Conservation officers checking for barbs in
barbless only areas by sticking the point through a stocking and
seeing how it comes out. It would be much harder for a bent-over
barb to pass this test.

I don't know if this is real or rumour.



On the tailwaters of Norfork Lake in the C&R area (Norfork River), F&G
checks with paper. Bent barbs often catch on the paper. Even when
barbs that are broken off by twisting, they could leave a burr than
can catch on paper. A friend of mine got a ticket even though he
clearly had the barb bent down because it caught on the paper.


Do you mean to say that they didn't confiscate all his gear and his rig
and haul him off to jail? That's the way I've heard the legend goes. :-)


No. Doug said that they warden gave him a ticket (maybe $150?). Might
have taken the fly. And he wasn't the only one. He said the warden
just went from fisherman to fisherman and checked each one for license
and barbed hooks. Was giving out tickets to most everyone. I guess if
the warden got DL#s, he could give out a lot of tickets without hauling
anyone in. Could make his ticket / revenue quota easier that way.

I've been checked several times for license (mostly in Tennessee), but
not for barbs. Never been ticketed. I just figure its less stress and
hassle to stay within the regs.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 06:02 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Nov 13, 7:37*pm, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
Snip

Here in WA I have been very rarely checked. But the thing they seem to
focus on is the catch "card." If you don't have it on you its a fine
or at least pack it in time. WA 's licencing system reflects the Peter
Principle in spades. For one, it's not a card at all but a strip of
smear-able old fashioned (thermal?) adding machine tape. The combo
licence has multiple "pages" of various lengths, and a dysfunctional
car tag for special H&F campgrounds. I'll save you the rest.Just know
that some, apparently un-firable, jackass has put all kinds of effort
into making this the most jerkwater licence system Ive ever run into.

Barbs. I crimp em. And the lifetime supply of hooks Ive accumulated
means this cheapskate will be crimping for the duration. Catch on a
stocking? I think the origins of that story go back to Roderick Hague
Brown, the legendary B.C. fly fishing pioneer, judge, and Western
Canadian fishing writer.

Dave
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Old November 14th, 2008, 06:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 13-Nov-2008, Peaceful Bill wrote:

I've been checked several times for license (mostly in Tennessee), but
not for barbs. Never been ticketed. I just figure its less stress and
hassle to stay within the regs.


When I was a kid, 15 or so I lived in, NYC Brooklyn to be exact
I had a good time as I as a good athlete and that's what we did then - play
ball
My uncles had some land in a fairly rural area - then
I stayed at my uncle's house and I used to go cat fishing - hitchhiking to
a pond that later was filled in and became the Nanuet mall

One time a game warden who looked like Smokey the Bear & a boy scout leader
came over to me and said " do you have a license, son? "
I said "What are you kidding? **** off!"

Well he threw my ass in jail and called my uncle who told them to keep
awhile me as I deserved it
I was kept awhile

Since then I always buy a license (even if I only fish for 1hour or sop in
an area)and I try to observe the regs but this barbless hook thing scares a
bit- I do crush my barbs
But sometimes - who knows?
There could be a burr
I will have to check them all and
I guess that I will have to look for barbless flies

Fred
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Old November 20th, 2008, 08:36 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Peaceful Bill wrote:
rw wrote:
Peaceful Bill wrote:
Scott Seidman wrote:



I've heard stories about Conservation officers checking for barbs in
barbless only areas by sticking the point through a stocking and
seeing how it comes out. It would be much harder for a bent-over
barb to pass this test.

I don't know if this is real or rumour.


On the tailwaters of Norfork Lake in the C&R area (Norfork River),
F&G checks with paper. Bent barbs often catch on the paper. Even
when barbs that are broken off by twisting, they could leave a burr
than can catch on paper. A friend of mine got a ticket even though
he clearly had the barb bent down because it caught on the paper.


Do you mean to say that they didn't confiscate all his gear and his
rig and haul him off to jail? That's the way I've heard the legend
goes. :-)


No. Doug said that they warden gave him a ticket (maybe $150?). Might
have taken the fly. And he wasn't the only one. He said the warden
just went from fisherman to fisherman and checked each one for license
and barbed hooks. Was giving out tickets to most everyone. I guess if
the warden got DL#s, he could give out a lot of tickets without hauling
anyone in. Could make his ticket / revenue quota easier that way.

I've been checked several times for license (mostly in Tennessee), but
not for barbs. Never been ticketed. I just figure its less stress and
hassle to stay within the regs.



Confirmed was a $100 ticket issued by Ark. F&G.

 




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