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On Dec 12, 9:50*am, "asadi" wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... asadi wrote: *Watch the video....in regards to Bldg. 7...fire was on one side, the metal wold have warped...trust..you're a spook (I mean that as a compliment...you secret spy stuff) ... *and I used to put out fires... You've mentioned that you were a fireman twice now so apparently you believe it has some relevance. With all due respect to your career as a fireman, how many fires did you see there in Dayton which involved a seven building complex with two 110 story towers doused in thousands of gallons of jet fuel ? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest the answer is, "zero". -- Ken Fortenberry The same as you Ken...three on TV...but I've studied a lot more...and Sherwin Williams, NCR..all involved gasoline or products like gasoline that burned at a much higher temperature than "jet fuel," so they don't count. Jet fuel is no big deal as regards to heat, it just resists water extinguishing because it is a liquid, it's kind of like kerosene with perfume..In the open air jet fuel burns at a mere 549 *F or 287 C. Think about it...I've got a 'cheap' steel heater in my garage that burns 'jet fuel as a back up heat source or winter working...hasn't melted yet! Steel melts at *2750 F or 1370 C......but that's enough of this thread...getting a little off track john....now....I hate to correct you but photon torpedoes did not hit the WTC....those were used on the pentagon.... Thing is, John, the steel doesn't have to melt. The strength of the low carbon steel used in construction, would be considerably compromised at 500 degrees. I really can't imagine that anyone would think, no matter how much they hate the Bush administration, that this was an inside job. And as Ken points out, the "gang that couldn't shoot straight", is way too inept to have carried out anything on that scale, and keep it a secret. One thing that the conspiracy theorists never mention, is the plane that crashed in PA. How would you explain that? |
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On Dec 12, 10:46*am, george9219 wrote:
Thing is, John, the steel doesn't have to melt. The strength of the low carbon steel used in construction, would be considerably compromised at 500 degrees. Quite right. Photos of steel buildings after major fires don't show melted steel, but the steel framing is typically severely deformed & twisted from heat effects. Take that same type of damaged structural framing and put a 20-story or 40-story concrete and steel building on top of it, and you don't need a tinfoil hat to imagine a structural failure even without taking out a few columns with a jetliner impact. One thing that the conspiracy theorists never mention, is the plane that crashed in PA. How would you explain that? I'm going with gravity. Joe F. |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote: One thing that the conspiracy theorists never mention, is the plane that crashed in PA. How would you explain that? I'm going with gravity. AND the fact that the passengers aboard said they had been hi-jacked and were about to confront the terrorists. **** poor flying while being attacked by ****ed off passengers, keyed with GRAVITY (as my structural engineering expert has noted) will indeed make a very big hole in the ground. Dave |
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