Since were on civics and such.

On Dec 24, 4:07 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

What they did was utterly wrong, but this video explains why it
was reasonable to want to do it.

We ain't perfect, but it was _not_ reasonable to want to do it.

Jon.
PS: I suspect most followups are going to be harsher, so done your
asbestos...

In article
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wrote:



We ain't perfect, but it was _not_ reasonable to want to do it.

Wake up.

It was perfectly reasonable to want to do it.

It was wicked and unforgivable to do it.


Jon.
PS: I suspect most followups are going to be harsher, so done your
asbestos...

I know. Just like criticizing the German government in the 30s, or the
Israeli one now.

L

Dave La course wrote

And what of your Jolly Old England? Seems you have had more terrorist
attack than we. They must really "love" you.

I'm not English, nor never have been so they're not mine, and I didn't
refer to them in my post.

But yes, the English have been attacked a bit, inevitably. Given what
they've done in Iraq it's not surprising.

But, just as 9/11 didn't create even a ripple on the graph of violent
deaths in America, fundamentalist islamic terrorism has killed few
Brits.

Unlike America, though, the deaths have done little to alter the way of
life in Britain. And the Brits are used to it - they had to put up with
the (US funded) IRA for thirty years, so there haven't been trash-cans
for terrorists to put bombs in in the subway for yonks, if not longer.

The US is weird, in that it's never been attacked from outside for the
last hundred years, so the population flap around like headless
chickens at the tiniest suggestion of a hint of a threat.

I know of no country whose population would react/ has reacted in such
a cravenly panic-stricken way as the US; but I realize that this is
partly due to its unique geographic and political isolation.

(Which, oddly enough, is also the reason why its people, in many ways
as sweet as they come, frequently behave so viciously when they come in
contact with foreigners, whom they see, as explained in the video which
began all this, as being other-wordly beings who suffer from the
terrible fate of being non-American.)

L

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
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(Which, oddly enough, is also the reason why its people, in many ways
as sweet as they come, frequently behave so viciously when they come in
contact with foreigners, whom they see, as explained in the video which
began all this, as being other-wordly beings who suffer from the
terrible fate of being non-American.)

L

Bingo! We have a winner!

You oughta try livin' with it :~^ (

Op


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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:11:39 -0500, "Mark H. Bowen"
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:251220080000180691%kishloganbarblesshook@hot mail.com...


(Which, oddly enough, is also the reason why its people, in many ways
as sweet as they come, frequently behave so viciously when they come in
contact with foreigners, whom they see, as explained in the video which
began all this, as being other-wordly beings who suffer from the
terrible fate of being non-American.)

Yet in the US, unlike most (but not all) countries/entities in
supposedly unnationalistic Europe and the rest of the world, desecrating
the most visible of all national symbols, its flag, is protected free
speech...

L

Bingo! We have a winner!

Naw, just a couple of losers...

You oughta try livin' with it :~^ (

Hey, Lufthansa's ready when you are...I'd have said "USAir," but they're
never ready when anyone is...ever...

Op

HTH,
R

On Dec 24, 4:39 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

It was perfectly reasonable to want to do it.

It was reasonable to strongly dislike some of the things our country
had done. It was not reasonable to "want" to fly packed civilian
jetliners into civilian-filled skyscrapers. In no sane world is that
reasonable to want to do.

If it's wrong to do, it's wrong to want to do.

Jon.

In article
,
wrote:

On Dec 24, 4:39 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

It was perfectly reasonable to want to do it.

It was reasonable to strongly dislike some of the things our country
had done. It was not reasonable to "want" to fly packed civilian
jetliners into civilian-filled skyscrapers. In no sane world is that
reasonable to want to do.

If it's wrong to do, it's wrong to want to do.

No no no no no

See 'Bad Men do what good men dream' by Robert Simon

http://tinyurl.com/8kgsj5

(whom I interviewed many years ago).

It's not thinking of doing bad things, or wanting to do them that's
bad.

It's doing them.

(Jesus, if I remember rightly, was inconsistent on this crucial issue,
but if he's still around, I'm sure he'll side with me now he's had more
time to think about it).

L

Hey! it's just gone his birthday here in Europe.

Happy Christmas all Roffians!!

(Especially the crotchety argumentative ones)

L

On Dec 24, 5:16 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

See 'Bad Men do what good men dream' by Robert Simon
http://tinyurl.com/8kgsj5

( the tinyurl thread a while ago, I don't click on what I can't
see, so all I'm going by is the title)

As far as the title goes, sure, I agree completely. We all have
unreasonable, wrong, evil thoughts, and it's good that we do not act
on (most of) them. That's the human condition, the whole reason for
Christmas. I didn't say that such desires are not understandable, just
that they are not reasonable.

But anyways, I'll second this:

Happy Christmas all Roffians!!

Merry Christmas, all.

Jon.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882)

Christmas Bells

I HEARD the bells on Christmas Day
Their old, familiar carols play,
And wild and sweet
The words repeat
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

And thought how, as the day had come,
The belfries of all Christendom
Had rolled along
The unbroken song
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

Till ringing, singing on its way,
The world revolved from night to day,
A voice, a chime,
A chant sublime
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

Then from each black, accursed mouth
The cannon thundered in the South,
And with the sound
The carols drowned
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

It was as if an earthquake rent
The hearth-stones of a continent,
And made forlorn
The households born
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!

And in despair I bowed my head;
"There is no peace on earth," I said;
"For hate is strong,
And mocks the song
Of peace on earth, good-will to men!"

Then pealed the bells more loud and deep:
"God is not dead, nor doth He sleep;
The Wrong shall fail,
The Right prevail,
With peace on earth, good-will to men."