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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 24, 4:39 pm, Lazarus Cooke
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It was perfectly reasonable to want to do it.


It was reasonable to strongly dislike some of the things our country
had done. It was not reasonable to "want" to fly packed civilian
jetliners into civilian-filled skyscrapers. In no sane world is that
reasonable to want to do.

If it's wrong to do, it's wrong to want to do.

Jon.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:16 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article
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wrote:

On Dec 24, 4:39 pm, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

It was perfectly reasonable to want to do it.


It was reasonable to strongly dislike some of the things our country
had done. It was not reasonable to "want" to fly packed civilian
jetliners into civilian-filled skyscrapers. In no sane world is that
reasonable to want to do.

If it's wrong to do, it's wrong to want to do.

No no no no no

See 'Bad Men do what good men dream' by Robert Simon

http://tinyurl.com/8kgsj5

(whom I interviewed many years ago).

It's not thinking of doing bad things, or wanting to do them that's
bad.

It's doing them.

(Jesus, if I remember rightly, was inconsistent on this crucial issue,
but if he's still around, I'm sure he'll side with me now he's had more
time to think about it).

L

Hey! it's just gone his birthday here in Europe.

Happy Christmas all Roffians!!

(Especially the crotchety argumentative ones)

L
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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:30 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Lazarus Cooke wrote:
wrote:
One of the better things I had sent to me this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rQzUVQjd8


Chills the soul, the way those propaganda films from Germany in the 30s
do.
snip


The Baxter Black soliloquy is a fairly eloquent piece of jingoistic
garbage. Americans just eat that **** up.

Prepare your asbestos underwear, you're about to take some heat.

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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:30 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:07:55 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

In article
,
wrote:

One of the better things I had sent to me this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rQzUVQjd8


Chills the soul, the way those propaganda films from Germany in the 30s
do.

Those films, on the other hand, were often very beautiful, and Germany
had the advantage then of being arguably the most civilized country on
earth. The best music, much of the best writing, much of the best
philosophy.


Not to mention the best, most civilised "shower" and crematorium
contractors...

One of the reasons I live in Europe is that I've never seen a
Frenchman, Italian, Irishman or Spaniard praise his/her flag, or argue
that his/her country was the best on earth (even though they probably
are).


Man, that's weird, and a shame...to live in Europe, and to have never
seen a European...

This video displays floridly the overweening, priggish, ignorant
complacency that inspired those evil *******s to do what they did on
9/11. What they did was utterly wrong, but this video explains why it
was reasonable to want to do it.


Uh, yeah...good luck with that...

Sheesh,
R

L

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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:52 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article ,
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On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:07:55 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
wrote:

In article
,
wrote:

One of the better things I had sent to me this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rQzUVQjd8


Chills the soul, the way those propaganda films from Germany in the 30s
do.

Those films, on the other hand, were often very beautiful, and Germany
had the advantage then of being arguably the most civilized country on
earth. The best music, much of the best writing, much of the best
philosophy.


Not to mention the best, most civilised "shower" and crematorium
contractors...


Glad that even you can appreciate my point.

L
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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:07 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Lazarus Cooke wrote:
In article
,
wrote:


One of the better things I had sent to me this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rQzUVQjd8



Chills the soul, the way those propaganda films from Germany in the 30s
do.


Well, gosh. It just seems like some mawkish but anodyne patriotism to me.

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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:24 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 24, 4:52*pm, Lazarus Cooke
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Baxter Black is actually an ex animal Vet who re-invented himself as a
"Cowboy Poet" about the same time he lost his taste for cow **** and
found out he inherited a large hat. You need to ignore his kind of
**** and understand that we are a very large country with all kinds of
folk. Trust me, very few American combat vets put out or put up with
the kind of flag waving that armchair phonies like Black trade in. We
are going thru a bad patch right now. That's not our soldier's fault.
Our soldiers do what our country asks them to do. The pay is bad and
the work is not very pretty. Things will change and we will fix our
mess. But do not expect us to get all gushy and contrite.

Dave
And besides your own country (countries) has made a few mistakes as I
recall.

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Old December 25th, 2008, 09:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article
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DaveS wrote:


Our soldiers do what our country asks them to do. The pay is bad and
the work is not very pretty.


I totally agree.

Dave
And besides your own country (countries) has made a few mistakes as I
recall.

I totally agree with this, too.

L
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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:11 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:251220080000180691%kishloganbarblesshook@hotm ail.com...


(Which, oddly enough, is also the reason why its people, in many ways
as sweet as they come, frequently behave so viciously when they come in
contact with foreigners, whom they see, as explained in the video which
began all this, as being other-wordly beings who suffer from the
terrible fate of being non-American.)

L


Bingo! We have a winner!

You oughta try livin' with it :~^ (

Op


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Old December 25th, 2008, 03:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 09:11:39 -0500, "Mark H. Bowen"
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
news:251220080000180691%kishloganbarblesshook@hot mail.com...


(Which, oddly enough, is also the reason why its people, in many ways
as sweet as they come, frequently behave so viciously when they come in
contact with foreigners, whom they see, as explained in the video which
began all this, as being other-wordly beings who suffer from the
terrible fate of being non-American.)


Yet in the US, unlike most (but not all) countries/entities in
supposedly unnationalistic Europe and the rest of the world, desecrating
the most visible of all national symbols, its flag, is protected free
speech...

L


Bingo! We have a winner!


Naw, just a couple of losers...

You oughta try livin' with it :~^ (


Hey, Lufthansa's ready when you are...I'd have said "USAir," but they're
never ready when anyone is...ever...

Op


HTH,
R
 




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