Is there any advantage in a spey rod?

Peter Charles wrote in
:

No joke, my 15'6" 11 wt. is easier to cast all day than my 9' -
10 wt. It's all about length, two hands, and good technique.
Well, come to think of it, there's a few things in life that
this fits but it's also true for two-handed fly rods.

;-)

How would
you like to cast a line 150' with less effort than it takes to
double haul?


Yes, I would like that very much. On good days with the right swell
(gutters in close) these distances are unnecessary but I'm finding
with time on the water these days are rather more rare than my
initial experiences would have me believe - 150ft would
be very useful indeed.

"The ease with which I could reach out close to a 100 feet and cast
over incoming breakers, set some to thinking."


Steve (tick, tick, tick ...)

On 25 Nov 2003 04:53:21 GMT, Stephen Welsh
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
:

No joke, my 15'6" 11 wt. is easier to cast all day than my 9' -
10 wt. It's all about length, two hands, and good technique.
Well, come to think of it, there's a few things in life that
this fits but it's also true for two-handed fly rods.

;-)

How would
you like to cast a line 150' with less effort than it takes to
double haul?


Yes, I would like that very much. On good days with the right swell
(gutters in close) these distances are unnecessary but I'm finding
with time on the water these days are rather more rare than my
initial experiences would have me believe - 150ft would
be very useful indeed.

"The ease with which I could reach out close to a 100 feet and cast
over incoming breakers, set some to thinking."


Steve (tick, tick, tick ...)


and when I mentioned my sore shoulder, it was from using a single
hander. I went over to the two-hander to give my shoulder a rest.

The ST. Croix I was using isn't much of an overhead rod. My Daiwa
Lochmor X is designed as an overhead rod and is far more effective
than the St. Croix.



Peter

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On 25 Nov 2003 04:53:21 GMT, Stephen Welsh
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
:

No joke, my 15'6" 11 wt. is easier to cast all day than my 9' -
10 wt. It's all about length, two hands, and good technique.
Well, come to think of it, there's a few things in life that
this fits but it's also true for two-handed fly rods.

;-)

How would
you like to cast a line 150' with less effort than it takes to
double haul?


Yes, I would like that very much. On good days with the right swell
(gutters in close) these distances are unnecessary but I'm finding
with time on the water these days are rather more rare than my
initial experiences would have me believe - 150ft would
be very useful indeed.

"The ease with which I could reach out close to a 100 feet and cast
over incoming breakers, set some to thinking."


Steve (tick, tick, tick ...)


Got to the http://speypages.com/speypages.htm and check out the
seventh video where Henrik Mortensen demonstrates the underhand cast.
This video also describes the basic powerstroke of the overhead cast
with a two-hander. Note how is bottom hand isn't even gripping the
rod -- how effortless the stroke. This stroke would produce a 100'+
cast with ease.



Peter

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Peter Charles wrote in
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Got to the http://speypages.com/speypages.htm and check out the
seventh video where Henrik Mortensen demonstrates the underhand
cast. This video also describes the basic powerstroke of the
overhead cast with a two-hander. Note how is bottom hand isn't
even gripping the rod -- how effortless the stroke. This stroke
would produce a 100'+ cast with ease.


Looks easy enough ;-)
Kush's snake roll is pretty impressive too!

Well, yestereve I went into the shop and cast about for the owner.
Fine chap is Milton, anyway he's getting in a Loop Black Line 8/9
for me to have a try of. And.... as luck would have it the T&T
rep.
wandered in at about the same time ... he was a little vague on
details but seemed to think there were some double handers laying
about ... somewhere. Fingers crossed on that one coming through.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of DH gear available downunder even
though there is a DH distance event at the casting champs.

That's a good site too thanks Peter,

Steve (scratting around for tackle ...what fun! :-)

On 27 Nov 2003 21:32:14 GMT, Stephen Welsh
wrote:

Peter Charles wrote in
:

Got to the http://speypages.com/speypages.htm and check out the
seventh video where Henrik Mortensen demonstrates the underhand
cast. This video also describes the basic powerstroke of the
overhead cast with a two-hander. Note how is bottom hand isn't
even gripping the rod -- how effortless the stroke. This stroke
would produce a 100'+ cast with ease.


Looks easy enough ;-)
Kush's snake roll is pretty impressive too!

Well, yestereve I went into the shop and cast about for the owner.
Fine chap is Milton, anyway he's getting in a Loop Black Line 8/9
for me to have a try of. And.... as luck would have it the T&T
rep.
wandered in at about the same time ... he was a little vague on
details but seemed to think there were some double handers laying
about ... somewhere. Fingers crossed on that one coming through.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of DH gear available downunder even
though there is a DH distance event at the casting champs.

That's a good site too thanks Peter,

Steve (scratting around for tackle ...what fun! :-)


The Loop Black Line 8/9 is a fairly lightweight, medium action, spey
outfit and it probably won't be too impressive overhead. The T&T
however . . .

Still, the all time overhead champ for me is my Scottish-made Daiwa
15'6" 11 wt. Very light, easy casting, and unfreakingbelievable
distance.

Peter

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Peter Charles wrote:



The Loop Black Line 8/9 is a fairly lightweight, medium action, spey
outfit and it probably won't be too impressive overhead. The T&T
however . . .

Thanks for the comment on the Loop ...I'd have preferred
the next size up (10/11) but that one doesn't come here ...
some weird decisions get made around the traps.
I'm really hoping the T&T guy can help out .. a lot.

and ...


Still, the all time overhead champ for me is my Scottish-made Daiwa
15'6" 11 wt. Very light, easy casting, and unfreakingbelievable
distance.

DW576W - 220 quid + p&p from a couple of places in the UK.

;-)



11wt might be over the top for the size fish - up to 3 kilo but
if that's what it takes to beat the wind and get the distance so be
it.


Steve (Actually fishzilla was 3 times that size ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :-)