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Old February 7th, 2009, 02:13 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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.....an interesting view supporting an early form of unequal or graduated
taxation:
"When the toll upon carriages of luxury, upon coaches, postchaises, &c. is
made somewhat higher in proportion to their weight, than upon carriages of
necessary use, such as carts and wagons, &c. the indolence and vanity of the
rich is made to contribute in a very easy manner to the relief of the poor."

want to guess the source of the quote?
Tom


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Old February 7th, 2009, 03:00 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Tom Littleton wrote:
....an interesting view supporting an early form of unequal or graduated
taxation:
"When the toll upon carriages of luxury, upon coaches, postchaises, &c. is
made somewhat higher in proportion to their weight, than upon carriages of
necessary use, such as carts and wagons, &c. the indolence and vanity of the
rich is made to contribute in a very easy manner to the relief of the poor."

want to guess the source of the quote?
Tom



Adam Smith, the intellectual father of laissez-faire capitalism, whose
legacy is misused by modern-day free-market "conservatives."

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Old February 7th, 2009, 03:07 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:13:46 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

....an interesting view supporting an early form of unequal or graduated
taxation:
"When the toll upon carriages of luxury, upon coaches, postchaises, &c. is
made somewhat higher in proportion to their weight, than upon carriages of
necessary use, such as carts and wagons, &c. the indolence and vanity of the
rich is made to contribute in a very easy manner to the relief of the poor."

want to guess the source of the quote?
Tom


Easy. Simply google it.

Question: Who determines what rich and poor is? I had a couple at
the food pantry on Thursday driving a three year old BMW 5 series.
Should they be paying a higher toll than, say, The Handyman in his new
fishing car. And, no, I didn't miss your point. d;o)

Dave


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Old February 7th, 2009, 04:48 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"rw" wrote in message
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Adam Smith, the intellectual father of laissez-faire capitalism, whose
legacy is misused by modern-day free-market "conservatives."

freaking spoilsport.g
Tom


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Old February 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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I had a couple at
the food pantry on Thursday driving a three year old BMW 5 series.
Should they be paying a higher toll than, say, The Handyman in his new
fishing car?


obviously, the measure of 'wealth' has evolved since Smith's time. Still,
it's strange days we're in when someone who thought they could afford a 5
series now feels they should benefit from the services of your food pantry.
Tom


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Old February 7th, 2009, 09:38 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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In article , Tom Littleton
writes

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .
I had a couple at
the food pantry on Thursday driving a three year old BMW 5 series.
Should they be paying a higher toll than, say, The Handyman in his new
fishing car?


obviously, the measure of 'wealth' has evolved since Smith's time. Still,
it's strange days we're in when someone who thought they could afford a 5
series now feels they should benefit from the services of your food pantry.
Tom



The application of tax should not be on the material purchase but on the
use of that purchase. Some one who uses an expensive vehicle extensively
should pay more than one who uses one sensibly and conservatively.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 10:41 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:50:46 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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obviously, the measure of 'wealth' has evolved since Smith's time. Still,
it's strange days we're in when someone who thought they could afford a 5
series now feels they should benefit from the services of your food pantry.


Obviously. It's even stranger when Barney, Dodd, and Obama told those
poor people that they could afford $400,000 homes when they only made
$50,000 per year. That is the crime, Tom.

Dave

(BTW, the guy in the BMW 525 works as a hospital orderly, and his wife
in the custodial section of the same hospital. They were laid off.
That new lawn in the Capitol will really serve these folks, eh? They
aren't used to asking for help from strangers.)



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Old February 7th, 2009, 11:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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That new lawn in the Capitol will really serve these folks, eh? They
aren't used to asking for help from strangers.)

the lawn won't help a bit, but they serve as a great example of why Medicaid
money is being pumped back to the states. In most counties, the public
health system is the largest employer by far. In this economy, hospitals are
being squeezed, badly, due to lost insurance compensation from layed-off
workers, and the resulting increase in uncompensated care.
Tom


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Old February 8th, 2009, 01:29 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:16:05 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
.. .
That new lawn in the Capitol will really serve these folks, eh? They
aren't used to asking for help from strangers.)

the lawn won't help a bit, but they serve as a great example of why Medicaid
money is being pumped back to the states. In most counties, the public
health system is the largest employer by far. In this economy, hospitals are
being squeezed, badly, due to lost insurance compensation from layed-off
workers, and the resulting increase in uncompensated care.
Tom


And your idea is to spend $900,000,000 to create 3,000,000 jobs. Do
the arithmatic, Tom. It makes no sense, no sense at all. Give me a
slice of that pie. Give me $300,000 and I'll creat ten jobs. Give my
daughter and her husband a $30,000 a year break and they will create a
job that pays $30,000 a year. Tax 'em and weap. This is no time to
raise taxes on anyone, least of all the folks that create most of the
jobs.

Dave


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Old February 8th, 2009, 02:08 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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This is no time to
raise taxes on anyone, least of all the folks that create most of the
jobs.

show me the proposal to raise taxes any time soon. The stimulus contains
hundreds of billions in tax cuts.
Tom


 




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