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DaveS wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:
Ideology does suck, as long as it is not yours, right?

You said **** for 8 years while a bunch of thieves looted the country,
abused prisoners of war, ****ed on and ignored the Constitution,
tolerated espionage, wasted many brave lives, and lied and lied, and
doubled the national debt. And now you get concerned with the details.
...

It all started with the that moron Reagan and his "government isn't the
solution to our problem, government is the problem". With an asinine
ideology like that it's no wonder modern day conservatism morphed into
Grover Norquist's wet dream, shrinking government until it was small
enough to strangle in a bathtub. What did conservative ideology get us ?
Bridges that fall in to the Mississippi, levees that break, toys from
China that poison our children, peanut butter from Georgia that kills
Grandma, arsenic laced water, polluted skies, mountain tops scraped
into West Virginia streams and a big pile of stinking economic ****
festering in the American living room. And now Louie comes along to
whine that he doesn't like the brand of shovel being used to clear the
**** out of our living room. If the GOP and their apologists had any
sense at all they'd open up a big can of Shut The **** Up.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Feb 12, 12:38*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
If the GOP and their apologists had any
sense at all they'd open up a big can of Shut The **** Up.

Only tangentially related to the discussion; but I have a nice, big
coffee cup on my desk since the 2006 elections that says pretty much
that. "How about a nice warm cup of shut the f*ck up?" (Gotta love
CafePress)

Joe F.

You really are a one trick pony.

I say wait and see. I've been safe the last 8 years. Let's see if
Obama can keep us safe. And, with this *first* trillion dollar magic
trick, I can see the bottom falling out of the market, the dollar
dropping like a lead baloon, and all of you socialists wringing their
hands and blaming it on Grover Cleveland, or Woodrow Wilson.

Silver quarters, Ken. Buy/steal silver quarters. Either that or have
octuplets. That'll work too. And if it gets *really* bad, I would
invest in a prayer rug.

Dave (high school grad who has *lotsa* silver quarters.)

On Feb 12, 2:19*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
I've been safe the last 8 years. *

Well, there was a little incident about 7 1/2 years ago. Maybe you
heard about it? IIRC, a couple of planes sorta flew over your house.
I'll give you unscathed, maybe even unaffected; but not safe.

Joe F.

rb608 wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:
I've been safe the last 8 years.

Well, there was a little incident about 7 1/2 years ago. Maybe you
heard about it? ...

LOL !!

Yeah, I imagine the outcome would have been quite different if it
had been Obama instead of Shrub who got the National Security memo
titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" on August 6, 2001.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Feb 12, 2:52*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Yeah, I imagine the outcome would have been quite different if it
had been Obama instead of Shrub who got the National Security memo
titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" on August 6, 2001.


I gotta concede that I don't necessarily blame the Shrub for not
stopping the attacks. Where he showed his colors was in reading "The
Pet Goat" for 7 minutes after being told the nation had been
attacked. I don't know what will come at us in the next 8 years, but
I'm confident that BHO isn't a fraction of the ****up Bush was.

Joe F.

rb608 wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Yeah, I imagine the outcome would have been quite different if it
had been Obama instead of Shrub who got the National Security memo
titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US" on August 6, 2001.

I gotta concede that I don't necessarily blame the Shrub for not
stopping the attacks. Where he showed his colors was in reading "The
Pet Goat" for 7 minutes after being told the nation had been
attacked. I don't know what will come at us in the next 8 years, but
I'm confident that BHO isn't a fraction of the ****up Bush was.

The 9/11 Commission wasn't quite as quick to let Shrub off the hook
but they didn't come right out and say he could have stopped the
attacks. Obama has to be an improvement over that imbecile, but then
that's setting a very low bar.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:41:31 -0800 (PST), rb608
wrote:

On Feb 12, 2:19*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
I've been safe the last 8 years. *

Well, there was a little incident about 7 1/2 years ago. Maybe you
heard about it? IIRC, a couple of planes sorta flew over your house.
I'll give you unscathed, maybe even unaffected; but not safe.

Joe F.

Which was planned 8 1/2 years ago. Nothing happened after that, Joe,
and that is ALL I ask from my government - keep me safe.

Today's America scares me. Whatever happened to the words, "Ask not
what your country can do for you...."?

Dave

On Feb 12, 2:59*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
Which was planned 8 1/2 years ago. *Nothing happened after that, Joe,
and that is ALL I ask from my government - keep me safe. *

I'll agree that's one of the government's primary functions. Heck,
"provide for the common defense" is right there in the Preamble. And
I don't deny that a lot of the planning and prep for the WTC attacks
happened in the years prior to the execution; but the oft repeated
claim that "Bush kept us safe" is utter bull****, and it kinda chafes
my ass a bit. "Nothing happened after that" ignores a rather
substantial aspect of the plot, I'd say.

A great deal of the fear and lack of security we experience today is
because of the military and foreign policy decisions Bush made, and
almost no one disputes that we have created more terrorists than we
have eliminated since WTC.

I have no clue what's going to happen under BHO, and we may in fact
see another attempt, successful or not, at a similar attack. I have
confidence that his decisions as to intelligence gathering and
analysis will not be politically or policy driven, that he will place
competent people in key positions, he will listen objectively to what
he's told, his foreign policy will try to avert crises rather than
create them, and that he will do his best to protect this nation. He
may fail; but I can't ask for more than that, and that's more than W
gave us.

As always, IMHO, of course.

Joe F.

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Whatever happened to the words, "Ask not
what your country can do for you...."?

went right out the window when Reagan got elected.
Tom
p.s. I hope we can get back to that concept, I really do.