And he forgot to report that dollar bill he found, too...

On Mar 4, 3:32*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

The wide stance Liberal that is admitted gay, and has his aid / companion
running a male prostitution ring from his house gets a chairmanship. *Double
standard?- Hide quoted text -

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Bill for once you are right. Gluckert had a wide open pass to go into
the Bush Whitehouse, stay overnight, screw and whip whoever were his
customers, and according to the Secret Service, leave no record of
checking out. Over and over and over. Did the "aid/companion" have a
Whitehouse pass? Nope.

You true believers just do not get it. You just do not understand why
and how all of the corruption, immorality, and treasonous bull****
your crowd waddled in, has driven so many people, including much of
the evangelical community away from the right-wingnut hijacked
Republican Party. The Rs will start winning elections again when they
jettison the America haters.

Dave

DaveS wrote:
On Mar 4, 5:04 pm, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
That the new administration has started complete out-of-control spending
is more likely to stir up conserv vs. lib more that what has been seen
in the last eight years of hyper-critical liberals attacking the Bush
administration.- Hide quoted text -

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Of course you are so committed to fibbing that you cannot admit that
the "new administration" was handed a whopping deficit by your crowd,
and that the first round TARP money with NO ACCOUNTABILITY provisions
was put together by the Bu****es? Hard to top yourself but maybe you
can pretend that Karl R. is a proctologist whose interest in Mr.
Gluckert's asshole was purely pro bono. Do you actually read a
newspaper before or after you make up your blowhard bull****?

Dave

The current admin got handed almost as bad a situation as the last one.
At least the transition didn't include trashed offices and PCs.
Maybe all the PCs should have had the letters B and O removed from them.

The current proposed spending cluster **** is the most outrageous in
history. Its just paybacks to all the groups that supported Obama.
Controls? Not in Obama's "stimulation" package.

Have a nice week. Work hard at the office. I'll be out fishing. Again.

On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:50 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Peaceful Bill wrote:

The real bottom line is the double standards by which liberals are judged
vs. the way conservatives are judged. If these picks were for the
previous administration, they would have been prosecuted and sent to
jail. There would have been no end of harsh criticism in the press.

You're talking from where most people do their farting again, Mr. Jelly.
Nobody, liberal or conservative, who makes trivial, honest mistakes on
their tax returns goes to jail.

I wonder what kind of bull**** you'd be spewing if it was a liberal
Senator who was caught doing the wide stance tap dance in the Men's
room. You'd be screaming for jail time wouldn't you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

The wide stance Liberal that is admitted gay, and has his aid / companion
running a male prostitution ring from his house gets a chairmanship. Double
standard?

First of all, what in the hell does Frank's being gay have to do with anything -
IOW, are you suggesting that if he had been a straight guy shacked up with a gal
running girls without his knowledge, it would have been OK? IAC, it's pretty
clear that Frank had no idea what his "companion" was up to. I'd offer that
while Frank has gotten some stuff wrong, he is, in general, a pretty decent
legislator (judging him by the standard of legislators), even though I
personally disagree with much of what he believes as far as politics go...as to
what he does in the bedroom, I don't give a tinker's damn - I'm certainly not
interested in asking (or knowing) and I'm hoping he continues to be uninterested
in telling...

HTH,
R

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:13:08 GMT, "Tom Littleton" wrote:


"Peaceful Bill" wrote in message
. ..
The real bottom line is the double standards by which liberals are judged
vs. the way conservatives are judged. If these picks were for the
previous administration, they would have been prosecuted and sent to jail.

uh, Bill, did you actually pay any attention during the 2 year free ride
that marked the beginning of the Bush administration? No one would have
batted an eye. This liberal vs conservative bull**** is real stale. That dog
don't hunt anymore, the voters made that real clear in the fall.
The fact that the right hasn't caught on might well mark the death of the
GOP.
Tom

Now wait a sec - I can't imagine anyone, in any administration or the public at
large, being sent to jail or even prosecuted for having made the mistake(s) Kirk
made. It has nothing to do with "free rides" or anything else. Tommy and
Timmy, OTOH...

TC,
R
....and as an aside, I'd not consider Ron Kirk "a liberal"...

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
The wide stance Liberal that is admitted gay, and has his aid / companion
running a male prostitution ring from his house gets a chairmanship.
Double standard?


care to back that up with facts?? Or, are you just another blowhard
throwing bull**** accusations around? I'm talking about the male
prostitution part, as I don't think too many people have an issue with
Congressman Frank's sexual preference.
Tom


1989
http://newsbusters.org/node/8119

just one reference. Google it.

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:50 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
Peaceful Bill wrote:

The real bottom line is the double standards by which liberals are
judged
vs. the way conservatives are judged. If these picks were for the
previous administration, they would have been prosecuted and sent to
jail. There would have been no end of harsh criticism in the press.

You're talking from where most people do their farting again, Mr. Jelly.
Nobody, liberal or conservative, who makes trivial, honest mistakes on
their tax returns goes to jail.

I wonder what kind of bull**** you'd be spewing if it was a liberal
Senator who was caught doing the wide stance tap dance in the Men's
room. You'd be screaming for jail time wouldn't you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

The wide stance Liberal that is admitted gay, and has his aid / companion
running a male prostitution ring from his house gets a chairmanship.
Double
standard?

First of all, what in the hell does Frank's being gay have to do with
anything -
IOW, are you suggesting that if he had been a straight guy shacked up with
a gal
running girls without his knowledge, it would have been OK? IAC, it's
pretty
clear that Frank had no idea what his "companion" was up to. I'd offer
that
while Frank has gotten some stuff wrong, he is, in general, a pretty
decent
legislator (judging him by the standard of legislators), even though I
personally disagree with much of what he believes as far as politics
go...as to
what he does in the bedroom, I don't give a tinker's damn - I'm certainly
not
interested in asking (or knowing) and I'm hoping he continues to be
uninterested
in telling...

HTH,
R

I do not care that Barney is gay. I do care about the pass he gets when his
companion runs a prostitution ring out of Barney's house. Gay or straight
prostitution does not matter. But Barney got a pass from the fourth Estate
and Congress. If you are going to complain about a congressman tapping his
shoe in the john make the same standards apply across the board. A
companion with unfettered and undocumented access to the White House running
an illicit business should cause a lot of flap. Same with the tax error
nominees. They should be getting the same penalties any other taxpayer that
makes an error gets. Nope, they are getting a free ride. Sort of like
getting caught leaving the bank you just robbed and giving the money back
and walking away without charges. Unfortunately, I used to think Barney was
probably the smartest person in Congress, but after all the support of FM $
FM during the bad loan era, I have killed that thought. He may be
intelligent, but he is not smart.

"DaveS" wrote in message
...
On Mar 4, 2:36 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

...
Just be thankful that enough of the moderates and independents had had
enough of the nonsense and corruption, and decided with their vote to
try a new direction. The challenge now is to govern responsibly,
restore the Constitution, rebuild America's industrial economy,
encourage real enterprise and scientific innovation, reform the
Nation's health care system, and rebuild our military's capabilities
to protect our country's valid national interests.

no small order there, Dave......
Tom

Not really. Obama's team has already acted in each of these areas and
we are not even up to 100 days. That is why all these right-wing
cretins are so ruffled. The only time they usually get so agitated is
when their welfare checks are late, the pharmacist questions their
"pain pill" prescription, they have to pay the check, or Rush takes a
day off. {;+))

Dave

What the hell has Obama done in the first 100 days? Except sign the largest
pork spending bill ever conceived. The market is still in freefall, even
worse with the taxes that are being proposed on business. Still no loans
being made to homebuyers. Daughters friends have made an offer on a house.
Accepted by the sellers. The real estate agent, says he has 30 signed deals
for houses. By buyers that can afford the payments. 1 has been approved.
Most of the spending in the newest PORK bill, does not kick in for at least
a year. Your kids and grandkids are going to inherit a huge deficit for our
sins.

"riverman" wrote in message
...
On Mar 5, 5:14 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:


According to the rules, I should not have had to pay.

Hmmm....which rules are those?

--riverman

Where you pay more in taxes that year than you did the year before. They
said they forgive the penalty if you retire. A lot less effort and cost to
pay the $250 than to fight the IRS. Then you have to pay huge estimates the
next year and wait for your refund. No interest or penalty to the IRS.

On Mar 4, 10:14*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

...
On Mar 4, 2:36 pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"DaveS" wrote in message

....
Just be thankful that enough of the moderates and independents had had
enough of the nonsense and corruption, and decided with their vote to
try a new direction. The challenge now is to govern responsibly,
restore the Constitution, rebuild America's industrial economy,
encourage real enterprise and scientific innovation, reform the
Nation's health care system, and rebuild our military's capabilities
to protect our country's valid national interests.

no small order there, Dave......
Tom

Not really. Obama's team has already acted in each of these areas and
we are not even up to 100 days. That is why all these right-wing
cretins are so ruffled. The only time they usually get so agitated is
when their welfare checks are late, the pharmacist questions their
"pain pill" prescription, they have to pay the check, or Rush takes a
day off. {;+))

Dave

What the hell has Obama done in the first 100 days? *Except sign the largest
pork spending bill ever conceived. *The market is still in freefall, even
worse with the taxes that are being proposed on business. *Still no loans
being made to homebuyers. *Daughters friends have made an offer on a house.
Accepted by the sellers. *The real estate agent, says he has 30 signed deals
for houses. *By buyers that can afford the payments. *1 has been approved.
Most of the spending in the newest PORK bill, does not kick in for at least
a year. *Your kids and grandkids are going to inherit a huge deficit for our
sins.

Clue 1: Who told you the Pres loans money to your daughter's friends?
Try checking with a BANK.

Dave

On Mar 4, 10:17*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:

Where you pay more in taxes that year than you did the year before. *They
said they forgive the penalty if you retire. *A lot less effort and cost to
pay the $250 than to fight the IRS. *Then you have to pay huge estimates the
next year and wait for your refund. *No interest or penalty to the IRS.

Wrong, Poor baby, wrong. You under estimated your non salaried,
quarterly payments. So you couldn't even do once, what every small
business person in the country has to do 4 times a year, good times/
bad times, because you needed to pay taxes on realized stock options
at an inconvenient time. Sorry I can't work up a blubber fest. Some
people might feel damn lucky to have to pay that much tax. And when
you say you earned it, one could ask why no Social Security was paid
on it, like it is on most every dollar working stiffs make in this
country.

My point is much in the tax code is unfair, mostly to Mr and Mrs
Average, but THE BILLS MUST BE PAID. Thats something Democrats take
seriously. No Republican President in the last 50 years has seemed to
understand the words "balanced budget."

Dave