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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:20:52 -0400, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:
"riverman" wrote There's nothing 'kum ba ya-ish' about it; people in real life who deliberately poison conversation without cause are bullies and assholes. And most folks just don't like bullies and assholes. Yet on line, somehow its considered reasonable behavior. I don't get it, I don't like it, and I don't want to participate in it. --riverman strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal damage is done by the vicious political wrangling, IOW, it's all Clinton's fault...why do you hate America? not the purely personal vitriol. IMO, that's an odd perspective - that a person/friendship (either virtual or real-world) would be "mortally damaged" because someone called their preferred candidate de jour an asshole or whatever, but wouldn't be bothered much if someone called _them_ an asshole or whatever (assuming both to be expressions of true feelings). the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing some pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random observations of the arguments. the former, however, is reality in print, grim, and sure to make for permanent enemies. I'd offer that anyone who takes politics or the discussion thereof too seriously, especially in such a "place" as ROFF, ought not to be discussing them and probably, is better off from a personal mental health standpoint doing as little thinking about them as they possibly can .. of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv. Um - YMMV, as I is want to say... yfitons wayno(and i almost forgot--the family trashing is beyond the pale, imho.) I guess I've missed most of that as I haven't seen much of it, but yeah, what little I have seen is, at least, beyond the pale. YFCOTGC, R |
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![]() wrote wayno wrote: strange thing about my take on this is that i think the most mortal damage is done by the vicious political wrangling, IOW, it's all Clinton's fault...why do you hate America? not the purely personal vitriol. IMO, that's an odd perspective - that a person/friendship (either virtual or real-world) would be "mortally damaged" because someone called their preferred candidate de jour an asshole or whatever, but wouldn't be bothered much if someone called _them_ an asshole or whatever (assuming both to be expressions of true feelings). well, richard, i guess my point (not very well put, i admit) is that the personal stuff is mostly *not* true feelings. fr'instance, my cousin and i constantly rib each other about our personal glitches, failures, and foolishness, but we have the strongest male relationship i could imagine. on the other hand, he and i differ strongly about politics, and have learned to stay clear of such matters if we care to remain cordial. the latter is almost gamesmanship; silly, mostly, containing some pretty humorous stuff, if, like myself, you simply make random observations of the arguments. the former, however, is reality in print, grim, and sure to make for permanent enemies. I'd offer that anyone who takes politics or the discussion thereof too seriously, especially in such a "place" as ROFF, ought not to be discussing them and probably, is better off from a personal mental health standpoint doing as little thinking about them as they possibly can my approach to the situation, exactly. . of course, as ol rdean is want to say, ymmv. Um - YMMV, as I is want to say... yfitons wayno(and i almost forgot--the family trashing is beyond the pale, imho.) I guess I've missed most of that as I haven't seen much of it, but yeah, what little I have seen is, at least, beyond the pale. YFCOTGC, R |
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