Hint for the day

On Mar 17, 6:26*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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On Mar 17, 2:42 am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
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individuals are not deterred by the thought of a death penalty IN THE
LEAST. You seem utterly clueless of this fact, and it is a fact."

And you know this "fact" how?

I could cite a couple life experiences, but won't. Still, it should be
pretty obvious that someone in the mental state to commit the sort of crime
you are discussing is in his own twisted world. The thoughts possessing him,
and I think any competent psychologist would back me up on this, override
any consideration of right or wrong, let alone potential punishment. So, the
suggestion of *capital punishment to deter such individuals is laughable.
Sure, you can deter drug use/sales with capital punishment(see: numerous
Islamic nations), you could well have curbed corporate excess with capital
punishment, if you wanted to legislate in that direction. But, any deterrent
effect on psycopaths has to be pretty slim. *As I said earlier, I sat and
pondered your original post for a few days, as it seemed truly bizarre and
sort of out of character for you.
I respond now because you actual believe this garbage you spew......
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

Sorry you had to say "I respond now because you actual believe this
garbage you spew......".
But I do believe what I said is a reasonable approximation of what I
think and what I have learned and experienced.

On your reference to "competent psychologist" (s) backing you up. For
one, it is often a psychiatrist in the "expert" witness box, and
secondly, would that be prosecution or defence paid "competent"
psychologists and psychiatrists?
And the standard is often "knowing right from wrong."

Dave
My 401k thinks you ideas on extending the death penalty might have
some merit. ;-))

"DaveS" wrote in message
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Sorry you had to say "I respond now because you actual believe this
garbage you spew......".
But I do believe what I said is a reasonable approximation of what I
think and what I have learned and experienced.

Sorry I did have to, but when you are advocating taking law into your own
hands with a Louisville Slugger, it's garbage. And, I suspect gutless
garbage, as I would bet dollars to donuts you wouldn't have a chance unless
you 'monster' was hogtied and padlocked(by others) in advance for you.

My 401k thinks you ideas on extending the death penalty might have
some merit. ;-))

I hope you, after a quick chuckle, understood my point...I was
differentiating between people who understand a deterrent and those who
won't respond whatsoever.
Tom

On Mar 18, 2:54*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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Sorry you had to say "I respond now because you actual believe this
garbage you spew......".
But I do believe what I said is a reasonable approximation of what I
think and what I have learned and experienced.

Sorry I did have to, but when you are advocating taking law into your own
hands with a Louisville Slugger, it's garbage. And, I suspect gutless
garbage, as I would bet dollars to donuts you wouldn't have a chance unless
you 'monster' was hogtied and padlocked(by others) in advance for you.

My 401k thinks you ideas on extending the death penalty might have
some merit. ;-))

I hope you, after a quick chuckle, understood my point...I was
differentiating between people who understand a deterrent and those who
won't respond whatsoever.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom

OK so let me see: Offering to be the reluctant executioner of a
criminal convicted by a jury of aggravated murder (34 hours of torture
etc etc), after almost 2 decades of unsuccessful appeals, who has been
sentenced to death under the laws of an American state, in a country
that has found capital punishment Constitutional, is "gutless"
because I "wouldn't have a chance unless you(sic) monster was
hogtied?"

Tom, let me explain, the reason the man is being executed involved his
extensive experience in harming other people. That is his skill set.
Maybe you would like these professional killers to be given a
"fighting" chance to avoid the sentence? Maybe give him a bat or a
knife like he used to torture and slice his victim? Interesting. But
you would not want to work guarding them I presume, nor do you want to
see his kind during the rest of their lives, you don't want to execute
them, you don't want the State to execute them, you would not want me
or anyone else to carry out the lawful sentence, I am gutless because
I wouldn't give him a fair opportunity to kill me, and you doubt this
kind continue to harm others in prison because that is done by
"gangs." That's quite a bigger deadlock of thinking than I can even
attempt to navigate. So I will just try to back away from this thread,
scratch my head and move on.

Is your attitude reflective of the general level of public support in
Pennsylvania for the challenges of correction's staff and management?
I know Pennsylvania has had some problems with guards going over the
line, and judges selling young prisoners to private prisons for a
kickback. Hopefully Pennsylvania will work it out. Meanwhile I want
the State of Washington to shorten the life of Cal Brown and a couple
of others who have shortened other's lives in particularly horrific
ways.

Dave

"DaveS" wrote in message
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OK so let me see: Offering to be the reluctant executioner of a
criminal convicted by a jury of aggravated murder (34 hours of torture
etc etc), after almost 2 decades of unsuccessful appeals, who has been
sentenced to death under the laws of an American state, in a country
that has found capital punishment Constitutional, is "gutless"
because I "wouldn't have a chance unless you(sic) monster was
hogtied?"

you were talking of dry fields and baseball bats, big guy.
I think you talk tough and lack the balls. Is that clearer?

Is your attitude reflective of the general level of public support in
Pennsylvania for the challenges of correction's staff and management?

what the hell does that have to do with anything? As Jeff opined, there
isn't a big problem that anyone has cited, regarding psychopaths creating
mayhem in prisons. You are setting up a strawman, and I'm calling bull****.


I know Pennsylvania has had some problems with guards going over the
line, and judges selling young prisoners to private prisons for a
kickback. Hopefully Pennsylvania will work it out. Meanwhile I want
the State of Washington to shorten the life of Cal Brown and a couple
of others who have shortened other's lives in particularly horrific
ways.


how biblical of you. Well, FWIW, I want a lot of things that I have little
or no control over. This, for you, is one of those things. Get used to it.

Tom