OT It could be, it might be, it is !!!

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... I am simply pointing out that what you, and
many such US workers, want today is simply ridiculous by historical standards,
even recent history, and that recent history in the US shows that people can
live perfectly decent, happy lives on much less than that to which you and
modern workers feel they are automatically entitled.

Well, I'd point out that what you and many wealthy folks want today
is simply ridiculous by historical standards, even recent history,
and that recent history in the US shows that people can live perfectly
decent, happy lives on much less than that to which you and modern
plutocrats feel they are automatically entitled.

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Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Well, I'd point out that what you and many wealthy folks want today
is simply ridiculous by historical standards, even recent history,
and that recent history in the US shows that people can live perfectly
decent, happy lives on much less than that to which you and modern
plutocrats feel they are automatically entitled.

he did, Ken, state that the limitation on personal lifestyles might be
helpful at ALL ends of the scale. That said, this whole thing is veering off
into 'oughta be' and 'should've been' type stuff. Both of you make valid
points: Rick about the current status quo, and you regarding the potential.
I don't see much in the was of suggestion how we get from one to the other.
Tom

Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Well, I'd point out that what you and many wealthy folks want today
is simply ridiculous by historical standards, even recent history,
and that recent history in the US shows that people can live perfectly
decent, happy lives on much less than that to which you and modern
plutocrats feel they are automatically entitled.

he did, Ken, state that the limitation on personal lifestyles might be
helpful at ALL ends of the scale. That said, this whole thing is veering off
into 'oughta be' and 'should've been' type stuff. Both of you make valid
points: Rick about the current status quo, and you regarding the potential.
I don't see much in the was of suggestion how we get from one to the other.

Well, one of us advocates the "innovate and educate" approach while
the other appears to be suggesting that the American working class
ought to get used to living happily flipping burgers for $20K a year.

If Rick is going to advocate wholesale downsizing in the US standard
of living my response is "you first".

--
Ken Fortenberry