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Old April 25th, 2009, 12:22 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry[_2_]
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alaskaguy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I've fished seven of the nine Missouri Blue Ribbon streams and
they're better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick but my
advice is, Go North. The driftless area of Wisconsin isn't that
far away and it's well worth the drive for native, but small,
brookies. You do know that trout are not indigenous to Missouri
and that wherever you fish you're fishing for stockers ? Not
that there's anything wrong with that ...


Sure, a drive to the Driftless Area of Wisconsin is worthwhile, but I
take small issue with referring to all the trout in Missouri as
stockers. Many are indeed wild though of course none are native.
Trout were introduced to Missouri in the 1800's. Many of the streams
I mentioned in the earlier post can and do carry very healthy wild
trout populations. You can and likely will find fulfillment on some of
these waters.


A dwindling few of the Missouri trout are wild. When I fished the
Eleven Point I was under the impression that it had never been
stocked after the first dumping from the train trestle in the 1880's.
I was mistaken. Missouri started "supplemental stocking" on the
Eleven Point and most of the other Blue Ribbon streams several years
ago. There are a few, very few, wild trout left in Missouri. But hey,
different strokes for different folks. I grew up in E. St. Louis and
caught my first trout in Missouri. I was the one who got hooked and
I've fished most of the trout streams in the state at one time or
another. I just prefer to fish elsewhere these days. YMMV.

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Old April 25th, 2009, 04:22 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
alaskaguy
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On Apr 24, 6:22*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
alaskaguy wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I've fished seven of the nine Missouri Blue Ribbon streams and
they're better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick but my
advice is, Go North. The driftless area of Wisconsin isn't that
far away and it's well worth the drive for native, but small,
brookies. You do know that trout are not indigenous to Missouri
and that wherever you fish you're fishing for stockers ? Not
that there's anything wrong with that ...


Sure, a drive to the Driftless Area of Wisconsin is worthwhile, but I
take small issue with referring to all the trout in Missouri as
stockers. *Many are indeed wild though of course none are native.
Trout were introduced to Missouri in the 1800's. *Many of the streams
I mentioned in the earlier post can and do carry very healthy wild
trout populations. You can and likely will find fulfillment on some of
these waters.


A dwindling few of the Missouri trout are wild. When I fished the
Eleven Point I was under the impression that it had never been
stocked after the first dumping from the train trestle in the 1880's.
I was mistaken. Missouri started "supplemental stocking" on the
Eleven Point and most of the other Blue Ribbon streams several years
ago. There are a few, very few, wild trout left in Missouri. But hey,
different strokes for different folks. I grew up in E. St. Louis and
caught my first trout in Missouri. I was the one who got hooked and
I've fished *most of the trout streams in the state at one time or
another. I just prefer to fish elsewhere these days. YMMV.

--
Ken Fortenberry


The North Fork of the White has not been stocked with rainbows since
1964. It is true that many other streams do receive stocking. I
don't know...it doesn't bother me really. Of course there's other
places I'd rather fish, but there's something to be said for looking
at the positives of the streams where you can fish consistently.

Most folks would still consider streams like the West Branch of the
Ausable quality fishing and I dare say a phenomenal percent of the
trout are "stockers." Very few streams anymore can sustain the level
of pressure they receive without stocking. Even streams like the
North Tongue River in the Bighorns receives stocking. It's just a
fact of life in most North American streams. Trappers Lake in the
Flattops of Western Colorado was stocked with 45,000 Colorado River
cutthroats per year between 2003 and 2007. This has been one of my
favorite spots and my view is no different based on this knowledge.
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Old April 25th, 2009, 04:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Fred
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On 24-Apr-2009, alaskaguy wrote:

Most folks would still consider streams like the West Branch of the
Ausable quality fishing and I dare say a phenomenal percent of the
trout are "stockers." Very few streams anymore can sustain the level
of pressure they receive without stocking. Even streams like the
North Tongue River in the Bighorns receives stocking. It's just a
fact of life in most North American streams. Trappers Lake in the
Flattops of Western Colorado was stocked with 45,000 Colorado River
cutthroats per year between 2003 and 2007. This has been one of my
favorite spots and my view is no different based on this knowledge.


Man Thanks to something - the winds of chance, Allah , Eliahu
, Jesus even Jim Jones,perhaps thanks to Muhammed Ali but I can still get
to some places that are not.

Fred
 




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