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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:52:12 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: FWIW, Obama _won_ because of urban non-whites in a key districts nailed the EC down for him. ... The old clandestine, racist, wink wink strategy cleverly employed by the Obama team in total secrecy and kept under the radar of all but the most astute observers. (Most of whom have eyeholes cut in their sheets.) Urban non-whites, the euphemism is a dead give away. Wow, you're really going for it, trying to fill those file cabinets... Um, euphemism, Gracie...? Lessee here...for example, Wayne County, Michigan is about 10% white, 90% _non-white_ (including blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc.), and I'd hardly it "rural" or "non-urban"...and if I'm a racist merely for using the term "urban non-whites," so is David Axelrod and Obama hisownself, along with about everyone who deals with polls and the data, censuses and the data, etc., etc. HTH, R |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:43:58 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: ...OTOH, Phil _Gramm_ is an ex-pol, but Lindsay _Graham_ is a Senator from SC.... Ah yes, Lindsey Graham, the Republican John Edwards aka HairDo 2. A total lightweight. Yeah, you obviously know a lot about him...you probably think he's big friends with John McClain and Ron Amanual, too... HTH, R ....yippie-ki-yay... |
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:39:02 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: FWIW, Obama _won_ because of urban non-whites in a key districts nailed the EC down for him. ... The old clandestine, racist, wink wink strategy cleverly employed by the Obama team in total secrecy and kept under the radar of all but the most astute observers. (Most of whom have eyeholes cut in their sheets.) Urban non-whites, the euphemism is a dead give away. Wow, you're really going for it, trying to fill those file cabinets... Um, euphemism, Gracie...? Yeah, euphemisms. The more euphemisms the lamer the argument. "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques", there's a good example of a euphemism employed to obfuscate a rather simple concept. When the copyright expires on that expensive data analysis of the polls you be sure to let me know. The actual analysis will likely remain private for a long while, but the underlying data is there for anyone who wishes to look it up, provided they have the objectivity and intelligence to rea...ah...yeah, I see your problem... Until then I'll consider Obama's victory an electoral landslide. Aw, now, come on - you sell yourself short - I have no doubt that you'll still consider all sorts of partisan crap and other incorrect stuff to be true regardless of the information provided to you... HTH, R |
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![]() "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Phil Graham is so blindly partisan he makes Tom Delay look like a moderate. ummm, I think you are referring to Phil Gramm. Unfortunately, I think Rick was referring to Lindsay, the South Carolina Senator...... I'll read on, and chuckle...... Tom |
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![]() "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... the only information you provide to substantiate this fairy tale is "the analysis is private". which, I strongly(VERY strongly) suspect translates into: "the analysis was made by folks far from the campaign, with no clue of state politics" Sticking to that strategy outlined by Rick, as the SOLE strategy, or even the DECIDING strategy element, is sheer lunacy. The numbers just won't add up. Obama's team is/was very good at reading the rules well before the first planning meetings, and attacked this campaign accordingly. They did, from state to state, what needed to be done to win the EC, easily. They attacked largely rural/suburban states with traditional GOP leanings, forcing the GOP to play virtual constant defense. They DID utilize big margins among non-whites in cities to their advantage. They maximized turnout by use of cutting edge techniques never really used before in practice(many were straight out of political theory classes at the University level). And, they won. Now, let's all get back to whatever the original topic was...... Tom |
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Tom Littleton wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: the only information you provide to substantiate this fairy tale is "the analysis is private". which, I strongly(VERY strongly) suspect translates into: "the analysis was made by folks far from the campaign, with no clue of state politics" Sticking to that strategy outlined by Rick, as the SOLE strategy, or even the DECIDING strategy element, is sheer lunacy. ... Lunacy would tend to suggest merely baying at the moon crazy. The strategy which Rick insists is true comes from baying at a planet far beyond our moon. Now, let's all get back to whatever the original topic was...... Uh ... Rick started this topic and he appears to be claiming that Arlen Specter is a communist. Are you sure you want to go there ? ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Apr 30, 12:43*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: ...OTOH, Phil _Gramm_ is an ex-pol, but Lindsay _Graham_ is a Senator from SC..... Ah yes, Lindsey Graham, the Republican John Edwards aka HairDo 2. A total lightweight. -- Ken Fortenberry Boy oh boy I think you underestimate Lindsay Graham. I see him as one of he best the conservatives field, intellectually capable and prepared, principled and tough minded, and willing to oppose the crowd (he was steadfast against the torture thing, as well as the jury- rigged Guantanamo crap.). Now, mind you, I do not buy his political basics, I am just saying I wouldn't write him off as a lightweight. He is for Democrats to take seriously, and he could well emerge as the leader of a re-energized, freshened-up version of Conservative Republicanism. And such a new wave certainly could power a Republican rebound from the present debacle. He |
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