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In article , W. D. Grey
writes In article , DaveS writes eems we have been in a hotbed of Welsh language speakers. Im into languages and in the process of getting around have asked a few times of folks for help pronouncing things. Well, Our little group has become something of a community project. Yesterday the postman stopped and backed up on the little lane we were hiking down to administer a pop quiz for retention and added a few new vocabulary words by way of assignment. Then at dinner another fellow pointed out proudly that he had taught me the one and two letter connectors, (the y words), to which Dewi added some racy bits. I think it would be possible to be speaking Welsh in a month or two more of immersion as almost everybody here is at least partially bi-lingual and once you get some of the things like the W, the ff, the dd, the ch etc down, the spelling doesn't seem so strange. And many of the words that look weird in the Welsh spelling, sound out like English, pronounced with a heavy Welsh accent. Hi Dave, the problem with the Welsh language is - there is literary Welsh and colloquial Welsh and never the twin shall meet :-) I love Cymraeg Llenyddol - Literary Welsh and that can be quite daunting for a learner. Colloquial Welsh is equivalent to (say) doncha Know. and a learner might never realise the origin of the phrase or word. The mutations in Welsh are a mine field, but for a true natural Welsh speaking Welshman it is natural for him to mutate certain consonants. You mentioned the y word. this is the definite article and causes the first consonant of a feminene noun to mutate. eg a cat would be cath but /the/ cat would be y gath. My the way it is said that in Welsh we have no swear words in stead we blaspheme. Mwynhewch eich gwyliau. Perhaps one of your new found friends will translate for you. Bye for now. Please forgive the typos - it appears my English isn't all it's cracked up to be :-) -- Bill Grey |
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