New Orleans ????

On Jul 9, 8:54*pm, "asadi" wrote:
"DaveS" wrote in message

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On Jul 9, 12:10 am, "asadi" wrote:

Well one of the classics is Preservation Hall for Dixieland
music . . . scruffy, tourist ridden etc, even so it and the changing
cast of musicians are very cool in my book. But small town?

You could do it Gonzo and country, mostly non interstate, in 3 days.
Back in the day we would do Provo, Utah to Jersey in 48 hours nonstop
via VW (no stops cept anything you can do in a gas stop) in Winter,
pre interstates, turnpikes OK if you had the money. *But you'd need
some recently returned missionaries in your party as drivers.

Here's a better idea. Have them fly in to Omaha, or better Des Moines,
then go right across Iowa on secondaries, visit the small townes of NE
Nebraska (catch some night-time small town semi-pro baseball), then
swing down to the Platte and follow her West like the Pioneers, allow
for at least 2 days in a garage for the predictable breakdown, then
Cheyenne and Laramie, anyway you get my drift. Show them Euros some
real Westerm American country. Ahhhhh Elko in the morning, climbing
down the Sierras, the Bay from Coit Tower.

The Shenandoah Valley is not a bad idea either. I would add a valley
swing, one or 2 mountain ridges into West Virginia, say from Romney
W.VA, *south. Capon Bridge etc.. Beautiful country that.

Good Luck
Dave

Dave, he's here in Dayton with me now...I'm think9ing a meandering route to
New Orleans and hping to come bachk up through the Shenandoah Valley. *Just
bought another house and I can't really spare more than ten days right now
so we are going to leave the west until another trip...

Preservation Hall for Dixieland music....got it and thanks...

john

Sounds cool. Follow the rivers down to NO. Make sure you get a tape
for that 8track with Goodman's (?) song "City of New Orleans," and a
tape of Mark Twain type stuff for the road trip. Natchez trace,
Vicksburg Yeah

"Good morning America how are ya?
"Don't ya know me Im your native son?
Im the train they call the City of New Orleans,
And Ill be gone 500 mile fore the day is done.

I love Goodman's great image line. . .

". . . their father's magic carpets made of steel."

Dave

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:39:19 -0700 (PDT), MajorOz
wrote:

On Jul 9, 2:10*am, "asadi" wrote:
...Well my sister in law and her husband are visiting from Germany. At first
he wanted to go to Myrtle Beach, Miami Florida, then travel route 66 and
some of highway 101 in California.....in two weeks.

So after telling him to Mapquest and look a the distances involved he has
calmed down very much.

Now we are thinking of Nashville and a few other country spots...he really
wants to see "small town" America. *I am thinking of New Orleans....then up
north to the Shenandoah Valley .

I know small towns and such but I have never been to New Orleans so if you
guys could give me a tip on a campground close by or some place to go or
some music to hear...I would a appreciate it....

John

New Orleans is a waste of time and money. If they are looking for
music, avoid the Memphis, Nashville, NO stuff and concentrate on the
Blues Trail. Go to Greenville MS, spend a night or three at some of
the black blues juke joints,

Um, when's the last time you were in Greenville? There are a few true juke
joints left in the area, but Viking, the casinos, the Deltafest, etc., have
yuppified and tourista-ed it, IMO, considerably. Now, if you're talking the
whole general area, on both sides of the river, and down into LA, then, yeah,
that's something pretty cool to consider. The only thing I'd say is to really
experience it, you need at least 5-6 days...preferably in the spring or fall. I
would also take issue with NO being a waste of time and money. There are
probably as many good places to hear music and eat good food in NO as there are
in a 30-40-mile radius of Greenville...which is not to say the Delta is a bad
idea, just to say that NO isn't, either.

I will say this - in the Delta, you won't need to be nearly as cautious as NO as
far as just walking into any ol' place. I can't really think of any place up
there (but I'm sure there are some) where you'd truly be in real danger, but I
can think of at least a dozen right off in the general NO area, and at least a
couple that an unknown white boy and a couple from Germany_will_ have an issue -
how it resolves will be partly up to the white boy and his party, but partly up
to fate, and at least one that while I'd almost certainly be OK, I probably
still wouldn't go nowadays, even with friends of the, um, proper look - no point
in tempting fate THAT much...

And while Memphis and Nashville are pretty touristy, they have their good
points, too, but I'd rank them, in this situation, well below NO and the Delta
as possible destinations.

TC,
R

On 10-Jul-2009, MajorOz wrote:

Go to Greenville MS, spend a night or three at some of
the black blues juke joints,

The Blues trail also includes Clarksdale MS and
Parchman "Farm" Prison ( from the outside only of course)
are also worthwhile visitng for a cultural blues odyssey

Fred

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:34:11 GMT, "Fred" wrote:


On 10-Jul-2009, MajorOz wrote:

Go to Greenville MS, spend a night or three at some of
the black blues juke joints,

The Blues trail also includes Clarksdale MS and
Parchman "Farm" Prison ( from the outside only of course)
are also worthwhile visitng for a cultural blues odyssey

Fred

FWIW, Clarksdale is the "Home of the Blues," where "the crossroads" are (where
State Highways 61 and 49 merge), etc., and while it, too, has become more, um,
tourist-y over the years, not as much as Greenville, IMO. To me, Greenville is
more a couples/bed-n-breakfast/The Alluvian kinda place, whereas Clarksdale is
more a tamales-n-Jack Black outta the bottle kind of place, but there's just not
a lot of "juke joint" kinda places _in_ either town (and really, there never
were _in the towns_ per se). If you think about it, with what a "juke joint"
really is, there would be no reason for a bunch of them to be in town. Now, if
you're talking about all of Coahoma County, that's a different matter.

TC,
R

In article , Fred
writes

On 10-Jul-2009, MajorOz wrote:

Go to Greenville MS, spend a night or three at some of
the black blues juke joints,

The Blues trail also includes Clarksdale MS and
Parchman "Farm" Prison ( from the outside only of course)
are also worthwhile visitng for a cultural blues odyssey

Fred

How did Kid Ory rate all those years ago?

Blues for Jimmy Noon etc.
--
Bill Grey

On Jul 10, 3:05*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:39:19 -0700 (PDT), MajorOz
wrote:



On Jul 9, 2:10*am, "asadi" wrote:
...Well my sister in law and her husband are visiting from Germany. At first
he wanted to go to Myrtle Beach, Miami Florida, then travel route 66 and
some of highway 101 in California.....in two weeks.

So after telling him to Mapquest and look a the distances involved he has
calmed down very much.

Now we are thinking of Nashville and a few other country spots...he really
wants to see "small town" America. *I am thinking of New Orleans....then up
north to the Shenandoah Valley .

I know small towns and such but I have never been to New Orleans so if you
guys could give me a tip on a campground close by or some place to go or
some music to hear...I would a appreciate it....

John

New Orleans is a waste of time and money. *If they are looking for
music, avoid the Memphis, Nashville, NO stuff and concentrate on the
Blues Trail. *Go to Greenville MS, spend a night or three at some of
the black blues juke joints,

Um, when's the last time you were in Greenville? *

February, this year.

There are a few true juke joints left in the area,

In town, there are only a few, but, as someone else said, there are
more out in the boonies. Ask around.

but Viking, the casinos, the Deltafest, etc., have
yuppified and tourista-ed it, IMO, considerably.

Yeah, but you step around those like you do mud puddles.

I will say this - in the Delta, you won't need to be nearly as cautious as NO as
far as just walking into any ol' place. *I can't really think of any place up
there (but I'm sure there are some) where you'd truly be in real danger, but I
can think of at least a dozen right off in the general NO area, and at least a
couple that an unknown white boy and a couple from Germany_will_ have an issue -
how it resolves will be partly up to the white boy and his party, but partly up
to fate, and at least one that while I'd almost certainly be OK, I probably
still wouldn't go nowadays, even with friends of the, um, proper look - no point
in tempting fate THAT much...

Which is a nice way for our German guests to remember the US.


And while Memphis and Nashville are pretty touristy, they have their good
points, too, but I'd rank them, in this situation, well below NO and the Delta
as possible destinations.

We are in general agreement. My entire point was to avoid crowds,
congested highways, billboards, etc, and see the country, while
picking up some of the best music.

cheers

oz, who REALLY overloaded at Fat Babies, about 12 miles up Hwy 1 north
of Greenville -- $12.95 for all-you-can-eat of everything the
restaurant has, especially ribs and catfish.