Non-felt wading boots review

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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT), george9219
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On Aug 6, 11:20 am, Ken Fortenberry
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Alex Bell, a fly fishing guide in Sylva, North Cackcalacky reviews
some new wading boots with the non-felt soles in today's Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...806-phys-slide...

I guess he likes the Korkers better than the Simms.

Has anybody tried the Chota RockLoc with the rubber soles and
optional cleats ? I love my Chota STL Plus but they're showing
their age and I want to replace them with something that's
not felt. And I ain't paying over $200 for a pair of Korkers.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of any of them. At best he said they
were almost as good as felt. The Korkers, he indicated were good along
the banks.
As far as cleaning goes, if he is concerned about getting small
amounts of sand out of the uppers, I would question his cleaning
procedure. Felts aren't really a problem to properly clean once you
understand that you are not going to manually remove all traces of a
one celled organism....you have to concentrate on killing it. Maine
has been doing a lot of research and has found soaking in a 5% salt
solution is adequate, and has set up cleaning stations on popular
trout streams. Freezing is also effective. I am 68 and can't afford to
break any bones, so it looks like I'll be buying another set of felts
before they stop making them.

A quick soak and rinse through a _mild_ household bleach solution (a
coupla
tablespoonfuls worth in a half-gallon Gatorade bottle of water) will kill
all
sorts of nasties. If you're really concerned, use a half-cup of bleach to
a
half-gallon of water, but be careful with it around anything you don't
want, um,
bleached...

TC,
R


Do not use gatorade or any other drink bottle for toxic stuff. Too many
people over the years have died or got very sick from this act.

On Aug 7, 8:39*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT), george9219
wrote:

On Aug 6, 11:20 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Alex Bell, a fly fishing guide in Sylva, North Cackcalacky reviews
some new wading boots with the non-felt soles in today's Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...806-phys-slide....

I guess he likes the Korkers better than the Simms.

Has anybody tried the Chota RockLoc with the rubber soles and
optional cleats ? I love my Chota STL Plus but they're showing
their age and I want to replace them with something that's
not felt. And I ain't paying over $200 for a pair of Korkers.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of any of them. At best he said they
were almost as good as felt. The Korkers, he indicated were good along
the banks.
As far as cleaning goes, if he is concerned about getting small
amounts of sand out of the uppers, I would question his cleaning
procedure. Felts aren't really a problem to properly clean once you
understand that you are not going to manually remove all traces of a
one celled organism....you have to concentrate on killing it. Maine
has been doing a lot of research and has found soaking in a 5% salt
solution is adequate, and has set up cleaning stations on popular
trout streams. Freezing is also effective. I am 68 and can't afford to
break any bones, so it looks like I'll be buying another set of felts
before they stop making them.

A quick soak and rinse through a _mild_ household bleach solution (a
coupla
tablespoonfuls worth in a half-gallon Gatorade bottle of water) will kill
all
sorts of nasties. *If you're really concerned, use a half-cup of bleach to
a
half-gallon of water, but be careful with it around anything you don't
want, um,
bleached...

TC,
R

Do not use gatorade or any other drink bottle for toxic stuff. *Too many
people over the years have died or got very sick from this act.- Hide quoted text -

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You have got to be kidding. In the dilution he suggested you would
have an acid solution somewhere between the acidity of a bitter lemon
and apple vinigar, or some especially rotgut wine. In any case,
definitly not WMD. Definitly.

Dave

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 02:21:49 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Aug 7, 8:39*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT), george9219
wrote:

On Aug 6, 11:20 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Alex Bell, a fly fishing guide in Sylva, North Cackcalacky reviews
some new wading boots with the non-felt soles in today's Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...806-phys-slide...

I guess he likes the Korkers better than the Simms.

Has anybody tried the Chota RockLoc with the rubber soles and
optional cleats ? I love my Chota STL Plus but they're showing
their age and I want to replace them with something that's
not felt. And I ain't paying over $200 for a pair of Korkers.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of any of them. At best he said they
were almost as good as felt. The Korkers, he indicated were good along
the banks.
As far as cleaning goes, if he is concerned about getting small
amounts of sand out of the uppers, I would question his cleaning
procedure. Felts aren't really a problem to properly clean once you
understand that you are not going to manually remove all traces of a
one celled organism....you have to concentrate on killing it. Maine
has been doing a lot of research and has found soaking in a 5% salt
solution is adequate, and has set up cleaning stations on popular
trout streams. Freezing is also effective. I am 68 and can't afford to
break any bones, so it looks like I'll be buying another set of felts
before they stop making them.

A quick soak and rinse through a _mild_ household bleach solution (a
coupla
tablespoonfuls worth in a half-gallon Gatorade bottle of water) will kill
all
sorts of nasties. *If you're really concerned, use a half-cup of bleach to
a
half-gallon of water, but be careful with it around anything you don't
want, um,
bleached...

TC,
R

Do not use gatorade or any other drink bottle for toxic stuff. *Too many
people over the years have died or got very sick from this act.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have got to be kidding. In the dilution he suggested you would
have an acid solution somewhere between the acidity of a bitter lemon
and apple vinigar, or some especially rotgut wine. In any case,
definitly not WMD. Definitly.

Dave

Naw, fair's fair, and it's a good point. Friends and I use them because we have
them around, but there are not toddlers around, and we don't let the solution
sit in the container - not because of the accidental drinking worry, but because
when such a mix is made, it is immediately used as "deck douche" (I do keep a
bleach/water mix in a spray bottle on all my boats for the same general
purpose). OTOH, if there is the slightest danger of someone getting sick from
something so simple to avoid, IMO, it's better to err on the side of caution.

TC,
R

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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 02:21:49 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Aug 7, 8:39 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT), george9219

wrote:

On Aug 6, 11:20 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Alex Bell, a fly fishing guide in Sylva, North Cackcalacky reviews
some new wading boots with the non-felt soles in today's Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...806-phys-slide...

I guess he likes the Korkers better than the Simms.

Has anybody tried the Chota RockLoc with the rubber soles and
optional cleats ? I love my Chota STL Plus but they're showing
their age and I want to replace them with something that's
not felt. And I ain't paying over $200 for a pair of Korkers.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of any of them. At best he said they
were almost as good as felt. The Korkers, he indicated were good along
the banks.
As far as cleaning goes, if he is concerned about getting small
amounts of sand out of the uppers, I would question his cleaning
procedure. Felts aren't really a problem to properly clean once you
understand that you are not going to manually remove all traces of a
one celled organism....you have to concentrate on killing it. Maine
has been doing a lot of research and has found soaking in a 5% salt
solution is adequate, and has set up cleaning stations on popular
trout streams. Freezing is also effective. I am 68 and can't afford to
break any bones, so it looks like I'll be buying another set of felts
before they stop making them.

A quick soak and rinse through a _mild_ household bleach solution (a
coupla
tablespoonfuls worth in a half-gallon Gatorade bottle of water) will
kill
all
sorts of nasties. If you're really concerned, use a half-cup of bleach
to
a
half-gallon of water, but be careful with it around anything you don't
want, um,
bleached...

TC,
R

Do not use gatorade or any other drink bottle for toxic stuff. Too many
people over the years have died or got very sick from this act.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have got to be kidding. In the dilution he suggested you would
have an acid solution somewhere between the acidity of a bitter lemon
and apple vinigar, or some especially rotgut wine. In any case,
definitly not WMD. Definitly.

Dave

Naw, fair's fair, and it's a good point. Friends and I use them because
we have
them around, but there are not toddlers around, and we don't let the
solution
sit in the container - not because of the accidental drinking worry, but
because
when such a mix is made, it is immediately used as "deck douche" (I do
keep a
bleach/water mix in a spray bottle on all my boats for the same general
purpose). OTOH, if there is the slightest danger of someone getting sick
from
something so simple to avoid, IMO, it's better to err on the side of
caution.

TC,
R

Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

On 2009-08-08 16:16:21 -0400, "Calif Bill" said:

Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

Yeah, like Budweiser, Laphroaig, and Lagavulin,

David LaCourse wrote:
"Calif Bill" said:
Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

Yeah, like Budweiser, Laphroaig, and Lagavulin,

Lagavulin is poison ? And this from a candy-assed candy drinker who
drinks Dram-****in-booie ?!!? Mixed with Vermouth !!!!!

Good gawd almighty, just cut off your goddamn manhood, thrust it
skyward clasped in your palsied old palm and proclaim to the world;
"I'm Dave LaCourse and I am a Pussy !!!! "

As if we didn't know that already.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On 2009-08-08 23:08:31 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

Lagavulin is poison ? And this from a candy-assed candy drinker who
drinks Dram-****in-booie ?!!? Mixed with Vermouth !!!!!

Good gawd almighty, just cut off your goddamn manhood, thrust it
skyward clasped in your palsied old palm and proclaim to the world;
"I'm Dave LaCourse and I am a Pussy !!!! "

As if we didn't know that already.

LOL. Perfect reaction.

I will never forget wayno's reaction when he sampled a dram of
Lagavulin at the "tasting" during the First Clave in North Cacalacky.
In his best NC accent, "Never has such foul tasting crap ever passed
over my lips than this ****." Of course he did not know at the time
that I had given him a bottle of the stuff for being the clave meister.
I believe you were the only one that liked it and ended up with
wayno's bottle.

And I don't drink Drambuie. Not a dram in the house. My reaction to
the vermouth/Drambuie was that the vermouth cut the overly sweetness of
the Drambuie. Ketel One on the rocks tyvm.

d;op

"David LaCourse" wrote in message
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On 2009-08-08 16:16:21 -0400, "Calif Bill"
said:

Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

Yeah, like Budweiser, Laphroaig, and Lagavulin,



How could anybody drink enough Bud to poison them is beyond taste.

On 2009-08-10 20:07:16 -0400, "Calif Bill" said:


"David LaCourse" wrote in message
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On 2009-08-08 16:16:21 -0400, "Calif Bill"
said:

Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

Yeah, like Budweiser, Laphroaig, and Lagavulin,



How could anybody drink enough Bud to poison them is beyond taste.

Uh, it's an esoteric joke. You wouldn't get it. But, thanks for the input.

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 13:16:21 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 02:21:49 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

On Aug 7, 8:39 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:02:00 -0700 (PDT), george9219

wrote:

On Aug 6, 11:20 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Alex Bell, a fly fishing guide in Sylva, North Cackcalacky reviews
some new wading boots with the non-felt soles in today's Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/200...806-phys-slide...

I guess he likes the Korkers better than the Simms.

Has anybody tried the Chota RockLoc with the rubber soles and
optional cleats ? I love my Chota STL Plus but they're showing
their age and I want to replace them with something that's
not felt. And I ain't paying over $200 for a pair of Korkers.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of any of them. At best he said they
were almost as good as felt. The Korkers, he indicated were good along
the banks.
As far as cleaning goes, if he is concerned about getting small
amounts of sand out of the uppers, I would question his cleaning
procedure. Felts aren't really a problem to properly clean once you
understand that you are not going to manually remove all traces of a
one celled organism....you have to concentrate on killing it. Maine
has been doing a lot of research and has found soaking in a 5% salt
solution is adequate, and has set up cleaning stations on popular
trout streams. Freezing is also effective. I am 68 and can't afford to
break any bones, so it looks like I'll be buying another set of felts
before they stop making them.

A quick soak and rinse through a _mild_ household bleach solution (a
coupla
tablespoonfuls worth in a half-gallon Gatorade bottle of water) will
kill
all
sorts of nasties. If you're really concerned, use a half-cup of bleach
to
a
half-gallon of water, but be careful with it around anything you don't
want, um,
bleached...

TC,
R

Do not use gatorade or any other drink bottle for toxic stuff. Too many
people over the years have died or got very sick from this act.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You have got to be kidding. In the dilution he suggested you would
have an acid solution somewhere between the acidity of a bitter lemon
and apple vinigar, or some especially rotgut wine. In any case,
definitly not WMD. Definitly.

Dave

Naw, fair's fair, and it's a good point. Friends and I use them because
we have
them around, but there are not toddlers around, and we don't let the
solution
sit in the container - not because of the accidental drinking worry, but
because
when such a mix is made, it is immediately used as "deck douche" (I do
keep a
bleach/water mix in a spray bottle on all my boats for the same general
purpose). OTOH, if there is the slightest danger of someone getting sick
from
something so simple to avoid, IMO, it's better to err on the side of
caution.

TC,
R

Right. It is the concept. Too many kids and some adults have died from
drinking what they thought was good stuff, and found out it was poison.

While I agree about _ever_ placing a _poisonous_ substance in a drink bottle, or
placing anything not intended for consumption in one that _might_ be
accidentally consumed by an unknowing person, just to be clear - a couple of
tablespoons of bleach in a half-gallon of water is not, as such, "poison." While
I wouldn't recommend or suggest drinking it, it isn't "poison," and is perfectly
safe to use as a disinfecting solution on most items (not anything highly
sensitive to bleaching). In fact, a few drops of bleach per gallon of suspect
water is an emergency water purifier.

TC,
R