Non-felt wading boots review

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:07 -0600, rw wrote:

I nailed it.

Hey...you're a tool...and sharp as a hammer, too...

HTH,
R

"Giles" wrote in message
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On Aug 11, 6:57 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

I am sitting here with 4 holes in the left knee
from the scope job.

You should have that thing bore sighted.....and then let a
professional mount and adjust the scope.

As wife said, have not had the boat out much this
summer.

Keep it out from behind the knees......should improve matters
considerably.

g.
happiness is a warm, yes it is.......

I think the waders would not fit well with a good or bad scope mounted.
The boat I use is an alumium jetboat. So nice seats. Just hard to climb in
and out with the bum knee. I have not used the float tube this year, but
have used the canoe a few weeks before the surgery. Must better already!

wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:07 -0600, rw wrote:


I nailed it.


Hey...you're a tool...and sharp as a hammer, too...

HTH,
R

And you, a nail.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

On Aug 11, 7:44*pm, Giles wrote:
On Aug 10, 11:15*pm, DaveS wrote:





On Aug 10, 8:08*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 9, 2:34*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:51*am, wrote:

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:40:48 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:43*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:09 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

Concept your ass.

Settle down, Francis...

HTH,
R

Settle down yourself. Coddling ignorance is not harmless. We live in a
country where the majority believes in creationism, including the last
President. Where the majority doesn't "believe in" man's role in
global warming. Where school kids are taught, that if their water test
of a stream indicates ecoli is present, that something is wrong. It is
high time that the gloves come off and folks are informed that there
really are some right and some wrong answers, and that science is not
some liberal ideology that Pastor Bob can explain away over a
milkshake.

Dave

Wow - you must be doing acid with Goatgang...but y'all obviously aren't at a
Holiday Inn Express, because Bill didn't say anything, at least that I saw,
about religion or its influence on what appeared, at least to me, to be his
position - that it isn't the best idea to put things not intended for
consumption into containers that previously contained things intended for
consumption. *Are you suggesting that he is against it because it would be a sin
or something?

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am suggesting that "bleach," is in or necessary for just about
everything we eat, wear, drink, **** in, sleep in, swim in, bath in,
drive, etc etc, everyday of our lives, often closer and in much higher
concentrations, than a few spoonfuls in a half gallon bottle. I would
venture that some kid who chugged some yellowish weak bleach solution
from an old bottle left lying about, would be more likely to gain a
needed valuable life lesson, than be in mortal danger. And its allot
cheaper than teeth whitener.

TEST Question 1: which teeth whiteners contain "bleach,"

Depends. *What sort of bleach are we looking for? *Ever heard of
hydrogen peroxide?

TEST Question 2: is your drinking water treated with chlorine?

How much chlorine is in your drinking water. *I'll accept answers
stated in terms of molarity, percent of volume or parts per million.

Incidentally, I'd be interested in your math in determining the
acidity of the chlorine solution in question.

hint 1: 1 US cup = 16 tablespoons
hint 2: 1 US quart = 4 US cups.
hint 3: 1 US half gallon = 2 US quarts.
household bleach is typically about a 5% aqueous solution of sodium
hypochlorite.....but many other forms and concentrations are
available.

g.
who, personally, wouldn't drink ANYTHING that had two tablespoons of
household bleach in a half gallon of anything......but that's why they
make amanitas AND potassium cyanide, I guess,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well since you just may have the better chemistry backround to shed
some light on this issue, you might share your thinking and
conclusions rat now. Be appreciated.

Don't drink anything from a half gallon jug to which two tablespoons
of bleach has been added.

Dave
Who assumes that most people would not drink ANYTHING they found just
lying about.

Most? *Hm.....don't know.

On the other hand, there are probably quite a few who would drink just
about anything they were told was lemonade.

g.
still waiting for that math.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well my rough envelope calculation is 79.24 mg/l at max for the
Gatoraide bottle , where the drinking water std for residual chlorine
is 4 mg/l in the US and 4 mg/l Euro. The number of conversions and
assumptions moving from weight to volume, solid to liquid, American to
metric, etc makes my calculation less than robust. What did you get?

The point is, after all, would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid?
What is that likelyhood, in your opinion?

Dave

On Aug 11, 1:01*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 10, 11:09*pm, DaveS wrote:





On Aug 10, 9:27*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

Pompous ass. I know a little Clorine is a sanitizer. Use it in my swimming
pool. But what if you put the straight bleach in a bottle and mixed it at
the stream? You are the ignorant asshole!!!!

Silence is Golden

Dave
Duct tape is Silver
I am glad you are going to shut up.

Be careful with all those exclamation points, you could poke your eye
out!

Dave

As much fun as this barrel of monkeys is . . . I need to leave for a
couple of days fishing the Yakima down the canyon. Hopper time. Maybe
get some pix of Desert Bighorns or whatever those thangs are that feed
on the canyon slopes.

Dave
Resident Dada High Priest- Hide quoted text -

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The Yak sucked. Big releases underway till into September. The river
was beautiful but very scary wading. Caught a few Whitefish, but not a
trout to be had. Incredible winds, 2 hours recovering locked in keys,
2 nites hoping a weenie fence next to camp would hold a bunch of rodeo
bulls, and a 2am long freight train or two. Still, did I mention how
beautiful the river was?

Dave
Note to self: Pay more attention to river level reports.

On Aug 14, 3:30*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 11, 7:44*pm, Giles wrote:





On Aug 10, 11:15*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 10, 8:08*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 9, 2:34*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:51*am, wrote:

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:40:48 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:43*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:09 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

Concept your ass.

Settle down, Francis...

HTH,
R

Settle down yourself. Coddling ignorance is not harmless. We live in a
country where the majority believes in creationism, including the last
President. Where the majority doesn't "believe in" man's role in
global warming. Where school kids are taught, that if their water test
of a stream indicates ecoli is present, that something is wrong. It is
high time that the gloves come off and folks are informed that there
really are some right and some wrong answers, and that science is not
some liberal ideology that Pastor Bob can explain away over a
milkshake.

Dave

Wow - you must be doing acid with Goatgang...but y'all obviously aren't at a
Holiday Inn Express, because Bill didn't say anything, at least that I saw,
about religion or its influence on what appeared, at least to me, to be his
position - that it isn't the best idea to put things not intended for
consumption into containers that previously contained things intended for
consumption. *Are you suggesting that he is against it because it would be a sin
or something?

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am suggesting that "bleach," is in or necessary for just about
everything we eat, wear, drink, **** in, sleep in, swim in, bath in,
drive, etc etc, everyday of our lives, often closer and in much higher
concentrations, than a few spoonfuls in a half gallon bottle. I would
venture that some kid who chugged some yellowish weak bleach solution
from an old bottle left lying about, would be more likely to gain a
needed valuable life lesson, than be in mortal danger. And its allot
cheaper than teeth whitener.

TEST Question 1: which teeth whiteners contain "bleach,"

Depends. *What sort of bleach are we looking for? *Ever heard of
hydrogen peroxide?

TEST Question 2: is your drinking water treated with chlorine?

How much chlorine is in your drinking water. *I'll accept answers
stated in terms of molarity, percent of volume or parts per million..

Incidentally, I'd be interested in your math in determining the
acidity of the chlorine solution in question.

hint 1: 1 US cup = 16 tablespoons
hint 2: 1 US quart = 4 US cups.
hint 3: 1 US half gallon = 2 US quarts.
household bleach is typically about a 5% aqueous solution of sodium
hypochlorite.....but many other forms and concentrations are
available.

g.
who, personally, wouldn't drink ANYTHING that had two tablespoons of
household bleach in a half gallon of anything......but that's why they
make amanitas AND potassium cyanide, I guess,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well since you just may have the better chemistry backround to shed
some light on this issue, you might share your thinking and
conclusions rat now. Be appreciated.

Don't drink anything from a half gallon jug to which two tablespoons
of bleach has been added.

Dave
Who assumes that most people would not drink ANYTHING they found just
lying about.

Most? *Hm.....don't know.

On the other hand, there are probably quite a few who would drink just
about anything they were told was lemonade.

g.
still waiting for that math.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well my rough envelope calculation is 79.24 mg/l at max for the
Gatoraide bottle , where the drinking water std for residual chlorine
is 4 mg/l in the US and 4 mg/l Euro. *The number of conversions and
assumptions moving from weight to volume, solid to liquid, American to
metric, etc makes my calculation less than robust. What did you get?

A chuckle or a grimace......depends on who's imbibing.

The point is, after all, would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid?

Hard to say. Does the kid in question mass more or less 20:1 what the
average American or Euro kid does? Is this your kid? It ain't mine,
so I guess it's all relative.....or irrelevant.

What is that likelyhood, in your opinion?

In my opinion, that likelihood is more portentous to those with
children and/or gatorade bottles and/or homemade sterlization
cocktails and/or matchbook cover chemistry degrees and/or a cavalier
attitude concerning poisoning and/or a congenital disregard for facts
and/or a complete indifference to basic sanity than it is to me.

What's it all mean to you?......I mean, other than potential material
for yet another artistic masterpiece or genealogical coup de grace,
that is?

g.

On Aug 12, 6:47*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
On Aug 11, 6:57 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

I am sitting here with 4 holes in the left knee
from the scope job.

You should have that thing bore sighted.....and then let a
professional mount and adjust the scope.

As wife said, have not had the boat out much this
summer.

Keep it out from behind the knees......should improve matters
considerably.

g.
happiness is a warm, yes it is.......

I think the waders would not fit well with a good or bad scope mounted.

And mimsy were the borogoves.

The boat I use is an alumium jetboat.

Best to keep that out of your nose, I think.

So nice seats.

More forge yellowish....maybe knot.

Just hard to climb in and out with the bum knee.

Try the other one. Whattya got to lose, ainna?

I have not used the float tube this year, but
have used the canoe a few weeks before the surgery.

Peyote prior, acid after. Float good. Me likey. Canoe canoe?

Must better already!

Rubrum!!

g.

On Aug 15, 6:17*pm, Giles wrote:
On Aug 14, 3:30*pm, DaveS wrote:





On Aug 11, 7:44*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 10, 11:15*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 10, 8:08*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 9, 2:34*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:51*am, wrote:

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:40:48 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:43*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:09 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

Concept your ass.

Settle down, Francis...

HTH,
R

Settle down yourself. Coddling ignorance is not harmless. We live in a
country where the majority believes in creationism, including the last
President. Where the majority doesn't "believe in" man's role in
global warming. Where school kids are taught, that if their water test
of a stream indicates ecoli is present, that something is wrong. It is
high time that the gloves come off and folks are informed that there
really are some right and some wrong answers, and that science is not
some liberal ideology that Pastor Bob can explain away over a
milkshake.

Dave

Wow - you must be doing acid with Goatgang...but y'all obviously aren't at a
Holiday Inn Express, because Bill didn't say anything, at least that I saw,
about religion or its influence on what appeared, at least to me, to be his
position - that it isn't the best idea to put things not intended for
consumption into containers that previously contained things intended for
consumption. *Are you suggesting that he is against it because it would be a sin
or something?

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am suggesting that "bleach," is in or necessary for just about
everything we eat, wear, drink, **** in, sleep in, swim in, bath in,
drive, etc etc, everyday of our lives, often closer and in much higher
concentrations, than a few spoonfuls in a half gallon bottle. I would
venture that some kid who chugged some yellowish weak bleach solution
from an old bottle left lying about, would be more likely to gain a
needed valuable life lesson, than be in mortal danger. And its allot
cheaper than teeth whitener.

TEST Question 1: which teeth whiteners contain "bleach,"

Depends. *What sort of bleach are we looking for? *Ever heard of
hydrogen peroxide?

TEST Question 2: is your drinking water treated with chlorine?

How much chlorine is in your drinking water. *I'll accept answers
stated in terms of molarity, percent of volume or parts per million.

Incidentally, I'd be interested in your math in determining the
acidity of the chlorine solution in question.

hint 1: 1 US cup = 16 tablespoons
hint 2: 1 US quart = 4 US cups.
hint 3: 1 US half gallon = 2 US quarts.
household bleach is typically about a 5% aqueous solution of sodium
hypochlorite.....but many other forms and concentrations are
available.

g.
who, personally, wouldn't drink ANYTHING that had two tablespoons of
household bleach in a half gallon of anything......but that's why they
make amanitas AND potassium cyanide, I guess,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well since you just may have the better chemistry backround to shed
some light on this issue, you might share your thinking and
conclusions rat now. Be appreciated.

Don't drink anything from a half gallon jug to which two tablespoons
of bleach has been added.

Dave
Who assumes that most people would not drink ANYTHING they found just
lying about.

Most? *Hm.....don't know.

On the other hand, there are probably quite a few who would drink just
about anything they were told was lemonade.

g.
still waiting for that math.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well my rough envelope calculation is 79.24 mg/l at max for the
Gatoraide bottle , where the drinking water std for residual chlorine
is 4 mg/l in the US and 4 mg/l Euro. *The number of conversions and
assumptions moving from weight to volume, solid to liquid, American to
metric, etc makes my calculation less than robust. What did you get?

A chuckle or a grimace......depends on who's imbibing.

The point is, after all, would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid?

Hard to say. *Does the kid in question mass more or less 20:1 what the
average American or Euro kid does? *Is this your kid? *It ain't mine,
so I guess it's all relative.....or irrelevant.

What is that likelyhood, in your opinion?

In my opinion, that likelihood is more portentous to those with
children and/or gatorade bottles and/or homemade sterlization
cocktails and/or matchbook cover chemistry degrees and/or a cavalier
attitude concerning poisoning and/or a congenital disregard for facts
and/or a complete indifference to basic sanity than it is to me.

What's it all mean to you?......I mean, other than potential material
for yet another artistic masterpiece or genealogical coup de grace,
that is?

g.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

WOW. That was good. And quick too. How long does it take to do a
workup like that? It would have taken me a good 2-3 hours, and then
the editing and then the typing. Whew. Just makes me tired thinken
bout it. Almost nap time.

Dave

On Aug 17, 2:17*am, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 15, 6:17*pm, Giles wrote:





On Aug 14, 3:30*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 11, 7:44*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 10, 11:15*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 10, 8:08*pm, Giles wrote:

On Aug 9, 2:34*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Aug 9, 4:51*am, wrote:

On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 23:40:48 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:43*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:10:09 -0700 (PDT), DaveS wrote:

Concept your ass.

Settle down, Francis...

HTH,
R

Settle down yourself. Coddling ignorance is not harmless. We live in a
country where the majority believes in creationism, including the last
President. Where the majority doesn't "believe in" man's role in
global warming. Where school kids are taught, that if their water test
of a stream indicates ecoli is present, that something is wrong. It is
high time that the gloves come off and folks are informed that there
really are some right and some wrong answers, and that science is not
some liberal ideology that Pastor Bob can explain away over a
milkshake.

Dave

Wow - you must be doing acid with Goatgang...but y'all obviously aren't at a
Holiday Inn Express, because Bill didn't say anything, at least that I saw,
about religion or its influence on what appeared, at least to me, to be his
position - that it isn't the best idea to put things not intended for
consumption into containers that previously contained things intended for
consumption. *Are you suggesting that he is against it because it would be a sin
or something?

HTH,
R- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am suggesting that "bleach," is in or necessary for just about
everything we eat, wear, drink, **** in, sleep in, swim in, bath in,
drive, etc etc, everyday of our lives, often closer and in much higher
concentrations, than a few spoonfuls in a half gallon bottle. I would
venture that some kid who chugged some yellowish weak bleach solution
from an old bottle left lying about, would be more likely to gain a
needed valuable life lesson, than be in mortal danger. And its allot
cheaper than teeth whitener.

TEST Question 1: which teeth whiteners contain "bleach,"

Depends. *What sort of bleach are we looking for? *Ever heard of
hydrogen peroxide?

TEST Question 2: is your drinking water treated with chlorine?

How much chlorine is in your drinking water. *I'll accept answers
stated in terms of molarity, percent of volume or parts per million.

Incidentally, I'd be interested in your math in determining the
acidity of the chlorine solution in question.

hint 1: 1 US cup = 16 tablespoons
hint 2: 1 US quart = 4 US cups.
hint 3: 1 US half gallon = 2 US quarts.
household bleach is typically about a 5% aqueous solution of sodium
hypochlorite.....but many other forms and concentrations are
available.

g.
who, personally, wouldn't drink ANYTHING that had two tablespoons of
household bleach in a half gallon of anything......but that's why they
make amanitas AND potassium cyanide, I guess,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well since you just may have the better chemistry backround to shed
some light on this issue, you might share your thinking and
conclusions rat now. Be appreciated.

Don't drink anything from a half gallon jug to which two tablespoons
of bleach has been added.

Dave
Who assumes that most people would not drink ANYTHING they found just
lying about.

Most? *Hm.....don't know.

On the other hand, there are probably quite a few who would drink just
about anything they were told was lemonade.

g.
still waiting for that math.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well my rough envelope calculation is 79.24 mg/l at max for the
Gatoraide bottle , where the drinking water std for residual chlorine
is 4 mg/l in the US and 4 mg/l Euro. *The number of conversions and
assumptions moving from weight to volume, solid to liquid, American to
metric, etc makes my calculation less than robust. What did you get?

A chuckle or a grimace......depends on who's imbibing.

The point is, after all, would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid?

Hard to say. *Does the kid in question mass more or less 20:1 what the
average American or Euro kid does? *Is this your kid? *It ain't mine,
so I guess it's all relative.....or irrelevant.

What is that likelyhood, in your opinion?

In my opinion, that likelihood is more portentous to those with
children and/or gatorade bottles and/or homemade sterlization
cocktails and/or matchbook cover chemistry degrees and/or a cavalier
attitude concerning poisoning and/or a congenital disregard for facts
and/or a complete indifference to basic sanity than it is to me.

What's it all mean to you?......I mean, other than potential material
for yet another artistic masterpiece or genealogical coup de grace,
that is?

g.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

WOW. That was good. And quick too. How long does it take to do a
workup like that? It would have taken me a good 2-3 hours, and then
the editing and then the typing. Whew. Just makes me tired thinken
bout it. Almost nap time.

You're pathetic.

g.

On Aug 17, 7:16*pm, Giles wrote:

You're pathetic.

g.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Really? And here I thought that I was the coolest thing since sliced
bread. But at least you inspired me to paint a bit this evening.
Thanx.
But the question remains: Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a
kid? Yes? No? I don't know. Probably?

As to raising kids and safety . . . I found teaching stuff like "don't
pick up a bottle and chug unknown ****" was more effective than trying
to idiot-proof the environment, but I will concede that situations
differ. My kids were big time risk takers. Mountain climbing, back
country skiing, fire fighting, anything you can do in the water that
surrounds an island or goes down a river, lots of freight train
riding, bumming in Europe, slum living, etc.. So maybe I do tend to
discount the small ****.. But considering the stuff that's in most
garages, basements, medicine cabinets, etc.., I wouldn't be fretting
about some diluted bleach solution in an old Dr. Pepper spray bottle.
But hey, knock yourself out.

Dave