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  #31  
Old September 9th, 2009, 04:41 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 8, 12:30*pm, Todd wrote:
Giles wrote:
In English, "It" is neuter. *"She" is feminine. *"He" is most
assuredly masculine.


Hmmm. *What to say.


I dunno.....try something or other.

"He" has always been masculine and neuter.


Nope, that was the wrong thing to say.....because it's wrong. Moron.

You are rewriting the language to archive a political goal
of undoing a perceived wrong against females.


Busll****, idiot. I know the language.

You should
leave the language out of it and address what you see as
a wrong directly.


Yeah, that's clever.....address the issues without language. Doesn't
work for you. Why would you suppose it might for anyone else?

Depends on which Lord we are talking about. *The vast majority of gods
DO in fact have one gender or another.....or, sometimes, more than
one. *Your Lord, as yet unspecified here, may or may not possess
gender. *Obviously, we can't know. *Give us a name.....maybe we can
help alleviate your doubts.


I am referring to the God of the Christians and the Jews.


Oh, that one.

There is only one.


No ****?


You can call him Yewah.


or Sue Bob, or Chucky, or Late for Lunch. Meanwhile, nobody calls it
"Yewah."

Or Jesus, if you are a Christian.


Or whatever you like.....makes no difference to me.

Moron.


Did I call you any names?


None that I remember, imbecile. Did I miss something?

It breaks my heart.


Evidently it has also broken your head.


You break my heart Giles.


You got a heart named Giles? Damn, THAT is an amazing coincidence!

All you have to do is ask him.


Ask who what?

It is called a personal relationship for a reason.


Are you a priest in a parish with lots of young boys?

g.
who knows that "personal" isn't NECESSARILY the same things as
"physical" but......
  #32  
Old September 9th, 2009, 04:41 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 8, 8:14*pm, JR wrote:
Todd wrote:
Giles wrote:


In English, "It" is neuter. *"She" is feminine. *"He" is most
assuredly masculine.


Hmmm. *What to say. *"He" has always been masculine and neuter.
You are rewriting the language to archive a political goal
of undoing a perceived wrong against females. *You should
leave the language out of it and address what you see as
a wrong directly.


Hmm. *This should be good.

Not pretty, but good.


It ain't supposed to be pretty.

g.
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Old September 9th, 2009, 11:32 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 8, 10:30*am, Todd wrote:
Giles wrote:
In English, "It" is neuter. *"She" is feminine. *"He" is most
assuredly masculine.


Hmmm. *What to say. *"He" has always been masculine and neuter.
You are rewriting the language to archive a political goal
of undoing a perceived wrong against females. *You should
leave the language out of it and address what you see as
a wrong directly.

Depends on which Lord we are talking about. *The vast majority of gods
DO in fact have one gender or another.....or, sometimes, more than
one. *Your Lord, as yet unspecified here, may or may not possess
gender. *Obviously, we can't know. *Give us a name.....maybe we can
help alleviate your doubts.


I am referring to the God of the Christians and the Jews. *There is
only one. *You can call him Yewah. *Or Jesus, if you are a Christian.

Moron.


Did I call you any names?



It breaks my heart.


Evidently it has also broken your head.


You break my heart Giles. *All you have to do is ask
him. *It is called a personal relationship for a reason.
-T


Allah, Eloheim, Yawah, He whose name may not be spoken, God the
Father, etc etc, all the same God of the desert churches.

You seem to have forgot that the God of Islam is the same God as the
Jewish God. And that Christ is the primitive minor Jewish prophet,
mostly the invention by Paul-the-woman-hater, that some country
redneck construction worker/slave, Jesus-jews confused with God,
particularly after Constantine cut the deal that let them run
roughshod over the rest of the Romans. The Roman Jesus Jews invented
the term "Burn Baby Burn"

Dave
Jesus fishes worms on occasion. Ya got a problem with that?
  #34  
Old September 12th, 2009, 12:45 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Todd[_2_]
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DaveS wrote:

Allah, Eloheim, Yawah, He whose name may not be spoken, God the
Father, etc etc, all the same God of the desert churches.

You seem to have forgot that the God of Islam is the same God as the
Jewish God.


I seperated them as the god of the Jews and Christians gives free will.
It is up to you to choose good or evil. The god of Islam, everything
that happens is god's will. So I seperated them. And all
Christian know that Jews have a disagreement with us over status
of Jesus. That is a no brainer.

And that Christ is the primitive minor Jewish prophet,
mostly the invention by Paul-the-woman-hater, that some country
redneck construction worker/slave, Jesus-jews confused with God,
particularly after Constantine cut the deal that let them run
roughshod over the rest of the Romans. The Roman Jesus Jews invented
the term "Burn Baby Burn"


You just smeared a lot of good and decent people. Saint Paul has
prayed for me. I guarantee you he does not hate women. I have
a personal relationship with Jesus and so can you. Why all the hate?
The Lord can heal you if you let him. All you have to do
is ask. Next time you are fishing, find a comfortable rock to
sit on, clear your mind, and in your own words, ask him into your
heart. He will take it from there. It is that easy.

Dave
Jesus fishes worms on occasion. Ya got a problem with that?


The remark about "You eat what you kill. (Bait does not count)"
was a joke. Worms and other bait often die in the process
of catching fish and I am not about to eat my dead worms.

-T
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Old September 12th, 2009, 12:46 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Giles wrote:
Are you a priest in a parish with lots of young boys?


What a nasty thing to say. Why all the hate?
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:36 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 11, 4:45*pm, Todd wrote:
DaveS wrote:
Allah, Eloheim, Yawah, He whose name may not be spoken, God the
Father, *etc etc, all the same God of the desert churches.


You seem to have forgot that the God of Islam is the same God as the
Jewish God.


I seperated them as the god of the Jews and Christians gives free will.
It is up to you to choose good or evil. *The god of Islam, everything
that happens is god's will. *So I seperated them. *And all
Christian know that Jews have a disagreement with us over status
of Jesus. *That is a no brainer.

And that Christ is the primitive minor Jewish prophet,
mostly the invention by Paul-the-woman-hater, that some country
redneck construction worker/slave, Jesus-jews confused with God,
particularly after Constantine cut the deal that let them run
roughshod over the rest of the Romans. The Roman Jesus Jews invented
the term "Burn Baby Burn"


You just smeared a lot of good and decent people. *Saint Paul has
prayed for me. *I guarantee you he does not hate women. *I have
a personal relationship with Jesus and so can you. *Why all the hate?
The Lord can heal you if you let him. *All you have to do
is ask. *Next time you are fishing, find a comfortable rock to
sit on, clear your mind, and in your own words, ask him into your
heart. *He will take it from there. *It is that easy.

Dave
Jesus fishes worms on occasion. Ya got a problem with that?


The remark about "You eat what you kill. *(Bait does not count)"
was a joke. *Worms and other bait often die in the process
of catching fish and I am not about to eat my dead worms.

-T


Todd
Have I got a good idea for you.
You like fishing right?
Jesus talks to you, and
You like to talk about Jesus, Right?
So where can you talk to fisherman about Jesus?
ON THE RIVER.
Ok so how do you get fisherman on the river to listen to you talk
about Jesus?

YOU MAKE AND BRING THEM SANDWICHES AND THEIR FAVORITE BEVERAGES!

No ****, this could work for you like a charm. Get less sex than the
Youth Pastor but I know it would get you a seminar slot at the next
Pastorfest Spankorama.

(I like Lebonon baloney on Kaiser roll, onion and pickle. Like Abdul
sells at the deli in town. Please don't run some of your knowledge of
Islam by him while he is making you my sandwich, OK?)

Dave
On the Subject of Worms: Jesus always fishes big nite crawlers on an
old Wonderod with a 9' leader downstream right after a hard summer
rain. If you had a "personal relationship" with Jesus he would have
told you that. And he didn't, did he?
(Liverwurst would be OK if it were fresh.)
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:01:30 -0400, David LaCourse
wrote:

On 2009-09-08 11:03:03 -0400, Charlie S said:

Todd, you're missing a lot of fun! I fish almost exclusively for bass
and panfish (sunfish), due to the paucity of trout in my area, but
prefer them, anyway.
Charlie S.
RM2, USN-Ret.


Hi, Charlie. Your RM2 reminded me of the time my brother-in-law made
Chief. At his initiation there were several RMCs. I told him to say
this to one of the RMCs: "Three dits, four dits, two dits, dah,
Radiomen eat sxxt, rah, rah, rah." Of course he did and it was
welcomed with much laughter, especially when two of the RMCs picked him
up and put him in the trash barrel head first. That was many years
ago. Today's hazings are mild compared to back then.

Dave LaCourse, CTTC USN-Ret

:-D
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:20 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:09:05 -0400, David LaCourse
wrote:

On 2009-09-08 14:39:01 -0400, Bill Grey said:

In message 2009090812013050073-dplacourse@aolcom, David LaCourse
writes
"Three dits, four dits, two dits, dah,


Mr Morse would be pleased that his efforts provoked some humour :-)


You should hear me with "Bens best bent wire" on a speed key.

Egads! It just dawned on me that I learned MC 52 years ago and still
remember it well enough to copy by ear (slowly, of course).

There is very little Morse Code on the air today. The military has
stopped using it. In fact the Radioman rating (RM) doesn't teach it,
nor is it required. Most stuff on the air today is via satelite,
frequency division multiplex, phase shift keyed, FSK, DFS, etc, and is
non-Morse, except for the amatuer (ham) radio bands, and some merchant
shipping.

d;o)


I was given to understand that "radiomen", per se, don't even exist
any more. :-( They use a yeoman type to put/take the messages via
computer. Of course, they'd be lost if the satellites quit working!

Yeah, I learned morse (CW) back in '71, not QUITE as long as you, but
still... 38 years! SHEESH! DAMN, I'm getting old!
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:10:15 -0400, David LaCourse
wrote:

On 2009-09-08 17:52:13 -0400, Bill Grey said:

A colleague of mine took a party of scouts to visit a naval ship in the
docks and they went in to see the wireless operator who spoke to the
scouts and answered questions while he was receiving messages via
headphones and re-sending them by keying Morse.

A a bit of a mindbender


Indeed! When I learned it right out of boot camp, the instructor could
copy 40 words/minute, 5 letter code groups, and he would be typing
about two groups behind. I.e., when the code ended, he still typed ten
or more characters.

American hams do not need to take the morse test any more. They can
get a ticket without it. Like you said, sad.

I went through 26 weeks of school learning not only Morse, but cyrillic
Morse, and a whole bunch of other "stuff". I graduated first in basic
course, and 2nd in the advanced course. Ironically, as only they do in
the military or government of any kind, they took the top four guys out
of each class and sent them to NON-Morse training school. I stayed in
non-morse billets the rest of my career and hardly ever used Morse
again.

I could tell ya some storiers, Bill, but then I'd have to kill you. d;o)

Dave

I had an instructor in RM/A school (basic radioman stuff, like what's
a typewriter) who could copy like that... 5-letter code groups at over
30wpm while smoking a cigarette, drinking a cup of coffee, and
discussing this with a group of awe-struck students (one of whom was
yours truly). Amazing! I also have a friend (a ham, btw) who copies
over 60wpm. Had a watch section leader on one of the ships to which I
was assigned who could listen to the audio of the AP/UP 60wpm teletype
signal (news wire) and tell you what it said. No trick! His back was
to the printer, and one of the other peons (like me) was verifying
what he said by looking at the print-out!

I agree about the sadness of morse being laid by the wayside. Mine
was one of the MANY comments against it that were filed with the FCC.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 07:31 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:10:40 -0700, Todd wrote:

Bill Grey wrote:
In message , Todd writes
It has been suggested that barbless hooks penetrate deeper than
barbed hooks hence the damage.

Barbless hooks are easier to release. But, come to think of it,
I never had a bleed out problem with a barb.


It is a question of deep penetration, not easy release - which goes
without saying.


In aggregate I do believe I injure less fish
without the barb. So, those that do bleed out on
me I guess I will just have to eat. The rule
is you eat what you kill (bait does not apply).
And who am I to break the rules. :-)

-T

Amen! ;-)
 




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