Single Malts

On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:


"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

And the truth will not be in him.

g.

On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:
On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

And the truth will not be in him.

....or so deep that only his fellows can know.

cheers

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan (both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)

On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:

On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

And the truth will not be in him.

...or so deep that only his fellows can know.

Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway.

cheers

Prosit!

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan

I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here.

(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)

Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.


giles

On Sep 23, 9:28*pm, Giles wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:

On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:

On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

And the truth will not be in him.

...or so deep that only his fellows can know.

Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway. * * *

cheers

Prosit!

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan

I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here. * * *

They are both lovely single malts.


(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)

Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. *Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.

He flies in to .... somewhere on the coast and choppers out to the
rigs. He is an environmental consultant -- showing them what to fix
before some agency fines them zillions of dollars. On the way back he
buys (or gets from grateful clients) oodles of duty free booze. He
is mostly a vodka and tequila guy, so dad gets the good stuff.

And, yes, he adheres to dad's advice: "when in doubt, chicken out" and
stays on the ground when N Sea gets bitchy.

cheers

oz

On Sep 24, 2:23*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:28*pm, Giles wrote:





On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:

On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:

On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

And the truth will not be in him.

...or so deep that only his fellows can know.

Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway. * * *

cheers

Prosit!

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan

I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here. * * *

They are both lovely single malts.



(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)

Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. *Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.

He flies in to .... somewhere on the coast and choppers out to the
rigs.

One of the few great regrets in my life is that I never got to ride in
a helicopter while I was young and indifferent to mortality and now,
statistics be damned, I suspect that given the opportunity I'd wonder
about the advisibility of the venture. Oh, I'd go......there's no
question about that.....but not with the insouciance that would have
made it such an unmitigated and unattenuated joy half a century ago
when it WAS indisputably dangerous and irresponsible.

He is an environmental consultant -- showing them what to fix
before some agency fines them zillions of dollars.

I like that. It opens up all kinds of avenues for contemplation,
enquiry, discussion, rumination, etc. What a pity that these are all
dead hobbies.

On the way back he
buys (or gets from grateful clients) *oodles of duty free booze. *He
is mostly a vodka and tequila guy, so dad gets the good stuff.

Hm......well, between the tastes of per and fils, it seems unlikely
that a po boy in southeast Curdistan should be looking for the brown
truck to be showing up one of these first best days with a big bottle
of El Grito, I s'pose, I 'spect.....huh?

And yes, he adheres to dad's advice: "when in doubt, chicken out" and
stays on the ground when N Sea gets bitchy.

As a former English major ("follow the money" an old friend used to
tell me in response to just about anything that was said to him by
anyone), I appreciate both the rhyme and the sentiment. "He who
fights and runs away, lives to fight another day" is a more familiar
expression, I think, which, to the casual observer expressses
something of the same sentiment. Personally, I've always thought that
he who runs away in the first place, and stays that way, renders the
rest moot.

cheers

Back at ya.

g.

On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:


I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?

The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.

Does this make me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?

Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:


I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?

The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.

Howsabout Glenn Frey and Glenn Close...? Most seem to be comme ci comme ca on
those...but be careful with Glenn Beck - from what I hear, you'll either become
an instant rabid fan or violently ill...

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.

Um..."Arbelor"...? A favorite of gardeners and morticians...?

Does this make me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?

Write down "Glenn Livet" and "Arbelor" on a piece of paper. Go to the fanciest,
snobbiest whisky purveyor in your general area. Hand it to the manager and say
you'd like those.

Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.

Seriously, though, Wayne does know his whisky and offers some good
suggestions...apparently, however, he might have been...um...doing some
testing... prior to posting...

About the least-expensive single malt I know of is the McClelland's line. It
is/was (I'm not sure what it'd be with the dollar) under $30USD a liter. They
have one from each of the regions. Some like one or more of them, some don't
like any, but no one AFAIK claims it's anything more than what it is -
inexpensive, young whisky. I have no idea whether you'd like any of them, but
trying them won't be too expensive. And if you also like scotch mixed drinks,
there's an place to use what you don't like neat.

IAC, whisky is pretty subjective, so what I might think is great, you might
think is not. I don't think I've ever even heard of a whisky that is
universally agreed to be perfect on all counts. In fact, I don't think I've
even heard of one that even _most_ agree is "great" on all counts - it's just so
subjective.

If you're trying to educate your palate and don't have a
knowledgeable source to turn (in person), I'd start trying various bottlings,
reading up, attending tastings, etc. If all you want to do is find a whisky you
like and stick with it, just find a bar with a pretty good selection of "the
main suspects" of commonly-available, under-$50 bottle whiskies. Darned few
whisky drinkers (at least "normal" ones) would say most of the common "Glens,"
Highland Park, etc. are "bad," and Aberlour has, IIRC, a couple of under-$50
bottlings. Of the "commons," Highland Park is a (generally) highly-rated
choice, if that means anything.

Another thing to _possibly_ consider, if you plan on "adopting" a "go-to" and
drinking that choice "out" much - Glenlivet and the like are going to be
_significantly_ less across-the-board and in relation to the cost per bottle
than some of the more expensive or just uncommon choices (uncommon as to being
ordered in all bars, rather than "uncommon" as to whisky). IME, if a given
booze is common, the markup is proportionally less and/or priced more in-line
with its actual cost - for example, Glenlivet might be just another "call" or
"premium," but Laphroaig and Lagavulin might be "menu" items, so that Glenlivet,
etc., is, say, $6.00 and the leapfrog and Lagavulin $12.00 and $15.00. Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.

TC,
R

wrote: Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.

TC,
R

snowbird lodge...graham county, nc...glenmorangie 18 yr...$18 a
glass...and, as best i recall, well worth it. just ask to be shown to
jeffie's tasting room...terrific view

On Sep 26, 9:05*am, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:

I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?

The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.

Howsabout Glenn Frey and Glenn Close...? *Most seem to be comme ci comme ca on
those...but be careful with Glenn Beck - from what I hear, you'll either become
an instant rabid fan or violently ill...

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.

Um..."Arbelor"...? *A favorite of gardeners and morticians...?



Does this make *me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?

Write down "Glenn Livet" and "Arbelor" on a piece of paper. *Go to the fanciest,
snobbiest whisky purveyor in your general area. *Hand it to the manager and say
you'd like those. *



Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.

Seriously, though, Wayne does know his whisky and offers some good
suggestions...apparently, however, he might have been...um...doing some
testing... prior to posting...

About the least-expensive single malt I know of is the McClelland's line. *It
is/was (I'm not sure what it'd be with the dollar) under $30USD a liter. *They
have one from each of the regions. *Some like one or more of them, some don't
like any, but no one AFAIK claims it's anything more than what it is -
inexpensive, young whisky. *I have no idea whether you'd like any of them, but
trying them won't be too expensive. *And if you also like scotch mixed drinks,
there's an place to use what you don't like neat.

IAC, whisky is pretty subjective, so what I might think is great, you might
think is not. *I don't think I've ever even heard of a whisky that is
universally agreed to be perfect on all counts. *In fact, I don't think I've
even heard of one that even _most_ agree is "great" on all counts - it's just so
subjective.

If you're trying to educate your palate and don't have a
knowledgeable source to turn (in person), I'd start trying various bottlings,
reading up, attending tastings, etc. *If all you want to do is find a whisky you
like and stick with it, just find a bar with a pretty good selection of "the
main suspects" of commonly-available, under-$50 bottle whiskies. *Darned few
whisky drinkers (at least "normal" ones) would say most of the common "Glens,"
Highland Park, etc. are "bad," and Aberlour has, IIRC, a couple of under-$50
bottlings. *Of the "commons," Highland Park is a (generally) highly-rated
choice, if that means anything. *

Another thing to _possibly_ consider, if you plan on "adopting" a "go-to" and
drinking that choice "out" much - Glenlivet and the like are going to be
_significantly_ less across-the-board and in relation to the cost per bottle
than some of the more expensive or just uncommon choices (uncommon as to being
ordered in all bars, rather than "uncommon" as to whisky). *IME, if a given
booze is common, the markup is proportionally less and/or priced more in-line
with its actual cost - for example, Glenlivet might be just another "call" or
"premium," but Laphroaig and Lagavulin might be "menu" items, so that Glenlivet,
etc., is, say, $6.00 and the leapfrog and Lagavulin $12.00 and $15.00. *Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.


Hm.....so, try some. You'll maybe like some and maybe not some
others. And the cheap ones cost less than the expensive ones. And the
common ones appear to be more common than the not so common ones.
Well......gosh.....who'da thunk it?

Imbecile.

g.

On Sep 26, 10:05*pm, wrote:


In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12,

I'm surprised no one picked up on this... :-)

--riverman