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On Oct 9, 1:52*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-10-09 09:42:58 -0400, Jon said: As one article mentioned, nominations for the prize close on Feb 1, just 12 days after the President took office. Perhaps someday he will have a record deserving of the prize, but right now anyone with at least half a brain, supporter or not, must be thinking "Huh?"... Jon. Ta Da! Ah.....yes.....nice gloss. Imbecile. g. |
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On Oct 9, 9:15*am, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:58:58 -0500, Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html I guess they figured if Kofi Annan and Al Gore didn't convince folks this thing is a cheap joke, this ought to do it... Sheesh, Spoken like someone with the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old. Obama is the president, get over it already. http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html Unless he was nominated in for 2008 too late (even more ridiculous), and as others have correctly pointed out, he had to have been nominated no later than a coupla weeks into office as POTUS. *My guess is that there will be some, er, "discussion" from at least some perfectly reasonable eligible nominators to release more details of this nomination long before the 50-year mark. And for the record, unless he or his people had something untoward to do with this (and that would include, um, "encouraging" one or more nominators to nominate him), this doesn't reflect on Obama one bit, it reflects upon the Committee (which has shown itself to be goofy in the past, ala Annan, Gore, etc.). * So.....um.....they missed you again, huh? Tsk, tsk. g. |
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On Oct 9, 10:18*am, georgecleveland wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:15:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 06:58:58 -0500, Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html I guess they figured if Kofi Annan and Al Gore didn't convince folks this thing is a cheap joke, this ought to do it... Sheesh, Spoken like someone with the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old. Obama is the president, get over it already. http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html Unless he was nominated in for 2008 too late (even more ridiculous), and as others have correctly pointed out, he had to have been nominated no later than a coupla weeks into office as POTUS. *My guess is that there will be some, er, "discussion" from at least some perfectly reasonable eligible nominators to release more details of this nomination long before the 50-year mark. And for the record, unless he or his people had something untoward to do with this (and that would include, um, "encouraging" one or more nominators to nominate him), this doesn't reflect on Obama one bit, it reflects upon the Committee (which has shown itself to be goofy in the past, ala Annan, Gore, etc.). * HTH, R Jeez richard. Sour grapes make lousy whine. Yeah, but if it's all ya got to work with..... ![]() Alfred Nobel created the prize to be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Hopey has been going around the world for the last 9 months trying to do those very things. And, as should be obvious, while the nominations were in February the voting by the committee was just a short while ago. All it takes to be nominated is to have one qualified person, like a history professor, forward said nomination to Oslo. Undoubtedly, there have been worse candidates. Limbugh has been nominated, as was W. There! See what I mean? Nevertheless, even for a famously opaque and inscrutable organization, the Nobel committee seems to have outdone itself this time around. Surely there is SOMEONE in the world who has actually accomplishment something or other of significance in bringing about, or at least encouraging, peace in this world in the last year or so. Or maybe not. Maybe, every once in a while, they should just hold on to one or another of the prizes for a year or two.....just until a credible winner, or at least candidate, shows up. hth A reasonable voice always does. giles |
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On Oct 9, 10:39*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html I guess they figured if Kofi Annan and Al Gore didn't convince folks this thing is a cheap joke, this ought to do it... Sheesh, Spoken like someone with the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old. Obama is the president, get over it already. http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html Unless he was nominated in for 2008 too late (even more ridiculous), and as others have correctly pointed out, he had to have been nominated no later than a coupla weeks into office as POTUS. *My guess is that there will be some, er, "discussion" from at least some perfectly reasonable eligible nominators to release more details of this nomination long before the 50-year mark. And for the record, unless he or his people had something untoward to do with this (and that would include, um, "encouraging" one or more nominators to nominate him), this doesn't reflect on Obama one bit, it reflects upon the Committee (which has shown itself to be goofy in the past, ala Annan, Gore, etc.). * Would you like some cheese with that whine ? Ooh! Piquant! Obama was awarded The Nobel Peace Prize "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples". Which, if you read it closely (or just glance at it), seems eerily close to meaning something or other, doesn't it? Sounds perfectly reasonable to me surprise. and even though it was surprising to even hint at some sort of skulduggery is just petulant whining. Skullduggery? Intrigue? Questionable motives? Obscure intentions? Impenetrable logic? The Nobel committee? No.....say it ain't so. The Nobel Peace Prize committee has never claimed to be an agenda free selection committee Which, perforce, makes all of their decisions unassailable.....right? and I think they're flippin' the bird to Shrub as much as they're honoring Obama. Wouldn't it have been much easier (not to say much more decorous and much less wasteful) to simply tell the world that Bush was a pig and an idiot, and then give the prize to someone who had actually accomplished something or other to bring about, or at least promote, peace in this world? To which I can only say, BRAVO, well done. Well, yeah, we believe that. Dumbass. g. |
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On Oct 9, 11:44*am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Oct 9, 5:40*am, wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe...ize/index.html I guess they figured if Kofi Annan and Al Gore didn't convince folks this thing is a cheap joke, this ought to do it... Sheesh, R ...maybe they just figured Lindsay Lohan would get all drunk and stupid at the presentation and, like, embarrass them or something... Nitwit Hear! Hear! It was *an award to the American people for getting rid of Bush and his gang of theives, liars and cowards. And it only took us eight years! Not a record, perhaps, but we should certainly be proud of our accomplishment, nevertheless. It's going to help world peace. Yep, any day now. They could have awarded it randomly to 5 or 10 people in the US Well, yeah, they have. but they might have picked some moron like yourself. Well, yeah, they have. g. |
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David LaCourse wrote:
Ken Fortenberry said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken, he wasn't eligible for the NPP. ... When did the Nobel people put you on their rules committee ? Congrats, what did you do to earn that ? Real simple; I told them you were an asshole. You should read the actual words of the Norwegian Nobel Committee: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...009/press.html The statement is worth reproducing he The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." Oslo, October 9, 2009 |
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On Oct 9, 3:26*pm, Family-Outdoors wrote:
There is a disconnect in the thinking of those who state that Obama lacks respect in he world community and then make clear they are disappointed he won this prize. Where's the disconnect? Seems perfectly consistent to me. There may be question as to whether he has accomplished enough to deserve the prize but to ridicule him and the committee for accepting and awarding the prize respectively is disingenuous. Once again, I fail to see any inconsistency. How is ridiculing the committee and the candidate for awarding and accepting, respectively, what is perceived as an undeserved prize disingenuous? If you simply despise the man and wish him failure and lack of respect, without a reason you'd care to bring to light, simply state this and cut with the twisted logic. "Twisted logic" will do as well as any other description in what passes for "discussion" (here as well as in so many other places and venues in the world), I suppose. But it cuts both ways. I believe for some there is nothing for which he will be granted credit. You're absolutely right. On the other hand, there are some for whom nothing that he does well ever be wrong. And between them, these two groups comprise the vast majority. Almost makes a boy wish that the the stupid buzz word (or, "term" to be more precise, I suppose) of a couple of decades ago had some validity.....that they were, in fact, silent. giles. |
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On Oct 9, 4:24*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: David LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken, he wasn't eligible for the NPP. ... When did the Nobel people put you on their rules committee ? Congrats, what did you do to earn that ? Real simple; *I told them you were an asshole. You should read the actual words of the Norwegian Nobel Committee: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...009/press.html The statement is worth reproducing he The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." Oslo, October 9, 2009 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz g. |
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On 2009-10-09 17:24:43 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken, he wasn't eligible for the NPP. ... When did the Nobel people put you on their rules committee ? Congrats, what did you do to earn that ? Real simple; I told them you were an asshole. You should read the actual words of the Norwegian Nobel Committee: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...009/press.html The statement is worth reproducing he The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." Oslo, October 9, 2009 Well, thank you for that, young fella. I read the exact same words several hours ago. Still doesn't answer the question: "How could they nominate him (and who did nominate him, btw) with only two weeks in office?" I don't care what my-dick-is-longer-than-yours contest he wins, but let it be legitimate. This one isn't. Two weeks in office and he's nominated? Riiiiiiight. Could it be just another sign of Obama's failure, a sign given by the ultra-leftist Nobel group, simply as a political maneuver designed to help a fellow traveler in need? d;o) |
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On Oct 9, 4:51*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-10-09 17:24:43 -0400, Ken Fortenberry said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken Fortenberry said: David LaCourse wrote: Ken, he wasn't eligible for the NPP. ... When did the Nobel people put you on their rules committee ? Congrats, what did you do to earn that ? Real simple; *I told them you were an asshole. You should read the actual words of the Norwegian Nobel Committee: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...009/press.html The statement is worth reproducing he The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons. Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened. Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population. For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges." Oslo, October 9, 2009 Well, thank you for that, young fella. *I read the exact same words several hours ago. Um.....I raise the "skeptical" flag. Still doesn't answer the question: *"How could they nominate him Well, the short version is someone says....or writes.....I hereby nominate, blah, blah, or words to that effect. (and who did nominate him, btw) "Them." Yes, it was definitely "them".....um.....or "him".....or "her." with only two weeks in office?" Oh....that. See, they'd been dithering over George III for ever so long when all of a sudden someone told them that he was no longer in office (though still an unmitigated idiot) so they said "who's next?" or something like that and somebody said, "um.......you know.....uh......the tan guy" or something like that, and next thing you know, VIOLA!, it's George Hamilton! I don't care what my-dick-is-longer-than-yours contest he wins, but let it be legitimate. You're a liar. This one isn't. You measured George Hamilton's dick? ![]() Two weeks in office and he's nominated? I've spent two weeks in an office. Anybody who has should get a prize of some sort or other. Riiiiiiight. Or leeeeeeeft. And the difference is.....? Could it be just another sign of Obama's failure, Well, yeah, o.k., you got us there......that's what prizes USUALLY mean. a sign given by the ultra-leftist Nobel group, Uh.....o.k., ya got us there too. Every right thinking person knows that the road to peace is paved with more guns, bullets, bombs, missiles, rockets, mortars, cannons, tanks, MIRVs, ICBMs, nukes, HUMVEES, IREs, handgrenades, bayonettes, barded wire, gas-chambers, waterboards, garrots, bows, arrows, slings, stones, spears, howitzers, mustard gas, bouncing betties, punjie sticks, rocks, crematoria, saps, lead pipes, guillotines, nooses, trip wires, lasers, heros.....um.......oh yeah, and dynamite. simply as a political maneuver designed to help a fellow traveler in need? Fukkers ought'a be gut-shot and left on the curb as a warning, to others, ainna? Imbecile. Pig. g. |
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